Comments on: Adobe shows off Flash support on the HTC Hero

By: ceejay

ceejay — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:00:38 +0000

I luv that game. You clumb a penguin with a yetti, which you then pilot as it glides through the air. You gotta maximize the distance… it takes practice.

By: Janus09

Janus09 — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:52:03 +0000

It doesn’t NEED to be on all the time and I doubt it will be locked to ‘ON.’

Having flash as an option that can be toggled on and off would be an amazing thing that no other current phone could match.

And yes there are workarounds for the G1 and iPhone like flixster and the youtube client, but there aren’t workarounds for everything and flash can fill the gaps.

The Hero looks like a pretty damn great phone at this point.

Also, I would consider multi-touch to be the more gimmicky thing that I don’t really care about in this list of specs. Now that’s an overrated feature.

By: Michael

Michael — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:04:36 +0000

@MooseWolfgansky,
Flash will not automatically make mobile devices better. I know geeks (not calling you one) want bragging rights to say look at flash running on my phone, but a lot of people aren’t thinking.

This is being done to give mobile devices a similar desktop experience since flash is used heavily on websites. Well mobile devices are not desktops. Screen sizes are much smaller there’s no universal flash plug-in. All devices would be at the mercy of Adobe’s snail pace.

Back in 2002 Adobe had a flash player 5 for Palm devices on the Sony Clie. It went no where. 3rd partys have come up with solutions like on the Nokia 97, but up until recently Adobe largley moved at a sloths pace to getting Flash supposedly optimized to give mobile phones flash.

The charm of mobile websites is that they are extremely optimized for speed. Get in and get out. Throwing flash in the mix will slow things down.

I saw the example of Flash on that new Android device and he went to yahoo to see a movie trailer. But a user can see a movie trailer just by installing Flixster on a G1 and bypass all those ads that even the guy in the video acknowledged. If the videos were in 3GP most of the smartphones would be able to play/stream the clips. 3GP is practicaly viewable on all mobile devices because it’s a standard.

Also HTML 5 a new standard will also enhance the mobile web experience with some flash like capabilities. There won’t be a need to wait for Adobe to get around to updating your plug-in for your specific platform. Or pray if they get aroud to your platform at all. For example the PS3 has a flash plug-in in it’s web browser and Adobe is slow as heck to update it. Now spread that to all the various smartphones and dumb phones Adobe has to make a specific player for each device/platform. Android, WebOS, iPhone OS, Windows Mobile various other handhelds and set top devices.

I liked flash back in the day, but since I’ve been going on the web via mobile devices, I am prefering the flashless web more and more.

In Adobes defense I will say that if Adibe can truly give mobile devices flash support that us seamless/transparent and extremly little to no slowdown. Then it has a chance. But they also have to realize that it also depends on websites stopping the flash-fatigue they give even to desktop users.

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By: G!no

G!no — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:35:47 +0000

@ Idiots..(a.k.a. grrr and joe cool)

Could you fuckers be ANY more annoying?!? Don’t you think if Zach had ANY carrier info OR an official release date he would have been HAPPY to include that in the blog?? STFU for God’s sake.

By: MooseWolfgansky

MooseWolfgansky — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:35:57 +0000

Most of these devices have everything under the sun jammed into them already; why not add flash? When the first iphone 3g dropped adobe said they would develop flash for it, and that was the end of that. Let’s face it folks these phones could use flash, it would only make them more better. Yes, no??

By: Agent Smith

Agent Smith — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:43:27 +0000

Funny – while the video was playing Flash was using 72.1% processor time on a Core2 Duo dual core 2.4GHz laptop. Why do I doubt their viability on a mobile phone?

Also I love how he showed about 3 seconds of the flash video and it was all choppy and he moved on quickly.

By: galvatron

galvatron — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:32:08 +0000

rim an nokia bwetter get on bord otherwise they will loos market share to WIN mobie and android platforms on HTC. However htc has this nasty habt of bulding phon With RAZR’ish quality parts

By: phoneplayer

phoneplayer — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:24:25 +0000

The iphone is going to be living without flash for a very long time

By: Michael

Michael — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:47:45 +0000

Just be ready for all those flash based ads that slows down things.

I think mobile devices can live without Flash.

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By: Beeve

Beeve — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:21:59 +0000

Where’s the Flash when we’re trying to watch cakefarts.com at work without a computer? Some day a US carrier phone will catch up with the rest of the world…nope, always 2 years behind.

By: korbermeister

korbermeister — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:19:05 +0000

EQUAL RIGHTS FOR CHINS! WE ARE ALL CHINS!

By: p.mcgee

p.mcgee — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:21:27 +0000

hEy dIs lOoKs kEwL!!1!

By: jazzyl

jazzyl — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:51:55 +0000

Nice and sweet RIM when are we gonna get flash on our Berries too???

Sent via BlackBerry.

By: joe cool

joe cool — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:15:54 +0000

im glad we know what carrier its gonna be on

By: Scrofula

Scrofula — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:14:42 +0000

Of course it still is you moron, at least for another couple of days. Everyone knows that at least officially it is not so much locked as it is disabled. No one ever promised stand-alone gps would work on the i910. Of course I’m never lost, so why do I care about it except as a gee whiz toy. All of you clowns who call yourselves “men” should be ashamed about being lost all the time! So which would be more useful, standalone gps or mms? What makes you idiots claim the wifi is broken? It’s just lies by jealous wankers.

By: eieio

eieio — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:11:36 +0000

Anyone have a link for this demo direct to youtube. or even the tittle of the vid so it can be searched?

By: Bob

Bob — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:55:51 +0000

@ Scrofula

How does GPS work on your Omnia? Let me link you to the BGR article below this one.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/06/24/verizon-wireless-rolls-out-new-gps-unlocked-rom-for-the-samsung-saga/

Seems to me the Omnia GPS is still locked.

By: Matt

Matt — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:52:15 +0000

How bout GPS? That’s not locked either right?

By: Scrofula

Scrofula — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:41:26 +0000

@steveglandboy

what would we do without you. I thought my omnia was accessing wifi in my house and at work. Silly me, you’ve set me straight! You get the present of yet another cincinnati bowtie! what other features of my phone are locked out by the evil geniuses of vzw? should we all migrate to the ipoop and att, where every function is open!

By: StevenGlansburg

StevenGlansburg — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:35:38 +0000

@Switched2iPhone,

Haaaaa no it won’t. It has wifi and a bunch features that aren’t as easily lockable to be charged for access.

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By: John Jacob Jingleheimer

John Jacob Jingleheimer — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:20:37 +0000

@Ervel Flick that was the point………

By: Switched2iPhone

Switched2iPhone — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:09:48 +0000

Alright, I just switched to the new iPhone even though I did not want to switch to AT&T. Will Verizon carry this phone?

By: Ervel Flick

Ervel Flick — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:56:49 +0000

“Maemo tablets?”

The N810 supports Flash. I used Pandora and YouTube all the time.

By: Burgundy

Burgundy — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:55:49 +0000

I mean with the Flash and all…

By: Burgundy

Burgundy — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:55:10 +0000

AHEM… RIM…. Hint.

By: joe cool

joe cool — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:53:33 +0000

carrier?

By: thefencechild

thefencechild — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:51:13 +0000

so who cares about that mytouch thingy anymore?

By: JRod

JRod — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:49:15 +0000

If ever there was a phone that could possibly make an person get rid of their iPhone, this is it. I want it – of course, pending it makes it to the US somehow.

By: JDane07

JDane07 — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:46:53 +0000

I like it…I just want to rip off the bottom portion. I guess I’m just one of the people who can’t stand the stupid “chins”. To me, it just looks out of place; the entire front side around the screen has a nice finish, then they make the chin a cheap looking plastic. It will probably look better in person though, because the entire backside has that same white plastic look.

By: grrr

grrr — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:44:47 +0000

that damn chin needs to go. OFFICIAL RELEASE DATE!?!