Comments on: Apple and AT&T announce details for tomorrow’s iPhone 3G S launch

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:55:08 +0000

Hi. I ordered my iPhone 3G S from an AT&T retail store on June 13. I got an Email from AT&T saying that my iPhone has shipped. I was just wondering if anyone has had the same thing or close to the same thing happen to them and how long it took for them to get your iPhone in your hands. If anyone can help please post back and help!

By: James Crawford

James Crawford — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:17:17 +0000

Wow, alot of uninformed people on here. I expect this from the general public, but if you read BGR you should be in the “know’. These posts reek of “I don’t know what I am talking about’.

First of all the processor in the 3GS iphone is the fastest of any mobile smartphone currently in production. Along with the Palm Pre, the ARM Cortex-A8 is the fastest known ARM processor on the market today, as well as most advanced. It is on par with the Intel ATOM processor with which it competes.

The “quoted’ processor speed of the 3Gs phone is the speed that the phone “operates at’. Or it’s operating speed. The processor in the Omnia 2 is a S3C6410 with a maximum speed of 800Mhz. The 800Mhz is it’s maximum operating frequancy not what the phone runs at. It runs at 533Mhz.

Which is slower than the iphone 3Gs’s 600 Mhz operation frequancy.

The S3C6410 is the next generaton Samsung processor. the S3C6400 was in the original iphone and iphone 3GS. And they operate at 412 Mhz with a maximum speed of 667 Mhz.

Now the Iphone 3Gs processor can run at well over 1Ghz. The 600Mhz operation frequency is the lowest frequency the processor runs at. Which is still higher than the Omnia. Let me say that again, the iphone 3Gs’s processor is running at the lowest possible speed. Repeat that three times and let it sink in.

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a6410&c=samsung_s3c6410

From Samsung:

http://www.samsung.com/eu/business/semiconductor/downloads/S3C6410.pdf

Compare this to the Cortex A8. No comparison.

“scale in speed from 600MHz to greater than 1GHz”
Not only that the processor has 13 pipelines, compared to 9 for the Omnia.

That is one in a half times as many as the Samsung processor. So speed does not even tell the whole tale. A Cortex processor running at the lowest setting like in the 3G s iphone would be equivalent to a Samsung processor running at almost maximum. Let that sink in for a moment.

How about the graphics processor? The Omnia has a Samsung intergrated GPU on the same processor. The iphone 3Gs has a dedicated GPU the PowerVR SGX.

You talk about a screen. I don’t care what kind of screen the Omnia has. If it is resistive covered in plastic, who cares. Take a look at these shots compared to the “supposedly’ inferior iphone screen with optical quality glass.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8000_omnia_2-review-362p2.php

“The only things that stop it from being perfect are the limited number of colors – 64K – and the resistive display, both restrictions of the underlying Windows Mobile OS. That and the disappointing sunlight legibility.: Quote from the article.

I will take the iphones capacitive display with the glass thanks very much. Nice try Samsung.

Can you say “washout’.

The iphone can take video at 30Fps same as the Omnia. Pictures need to be compared. But the reviews are glowing and the old iphones 2MP camera took better than expected pictures. We shall see.

As far as hardware goes, the iphone completely owns the Omnia in my opinion, and the software, WM 6.1 vs OSX. Please. Hahahah.
You know who wins that one.

The iphone 3Gs is the most powerful phone on the market in terms of horsepower and the amount of memory that comes packed with the phone on the market right now. It’s CPU and GPU is superior to all but the Pre which share the same CPU and GPU.

Don’t hate, educate.

By: Robert

Robert — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:33:17 +0000

Iphone 3g s .. “S” is for Suckers…..

By: ruben espinosa

ruben espinosa — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:56:34 +0000

it is so sad that you are so ignorant,the palm pre is right now lightyears ahead of the iphone

By: Pat

Pat — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:44:40 +0000

Wrong on the one per household online purchase. I just ordered one, logged out, logged back in, and ordered another one. They aren’t as smart as they think they are. It’s a dumb rule anyway.

By: Russ Rosier

Russ Rosier — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:37:33 +0000

Your 4th bullet item, wherein you state as follows, is incorrect:

“As we reported yesterday, AT&T extended this pricing to current iPhone 3G customers who purchased the iPhone 3G in July, August, or September 2008. Eligibility requirements apply.”

AT&T DID NEVER SAID that those who purchased a 3G in July – September 2008 would be eligible for the lowest pricing.

They said. those AT&T users who are eligible to upgrade in July – September 2009 will be allowed to upgrade a the lower pricing beginning this Friday.

Big difference.

By: Sam

Sam — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:06:01 +0000

Are you Kidding me…Comparing this Device to a Win Mobile Phone….Holy Crap! Get out of Here….It Could have Nicer Calandar (etc etc), but I NEVER USED IT BECAUSE IT’S A TERRIBLE UI…………..

By: Scrofula

Scrofula — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:02:46 +0000

Top 5 in all categories? A top 5 MMS phone? HA!

Maybe you’ll be able to get that advanced feature by next year.

There’s a retarded app for that.

Also re: resistive vs. capacitive screens…Notice how many iphones have cracked screens?

My 13 year old daughter initially scoffed at my winmo phone…but I notice she increasingly wants to get her paws on it and keeps finding things she thinks are cool. And all her friends have cracked screens…

By: moth monster man

moth monster man — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:36:52 +0000

bahhhh bahhhh look at the isheep there so cute !!!

By: Kelly Hodgkins

Kelly Hodgkins — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:22:49 +0000

@ abe Aalen
When this info was first presented to us yesterday afternoon, it was touted as a means of rewarding early adopters of the iPhone 3G, those who purchased the iPhone 3G between July-Sept 2008 and met certain criteria. I wrote it that way the first time around because that is how it was sent to us and then again this second time to be consistent from post to post.

Rather than spell out all the criteria in the original post, we linked to the press release which is where the confusion begins. The requirements for this special upgrade are customers who shell out more money per month than most customers and, as a result, are on an accelerated contract (12-18 months according to the AT&T’s press release). These early adopters would be eligible for upgrade in July 2009, August 2009 and September 2009. It is this subgroup of high paying customers that are eligible for the $199 and $299 subsidized prices.

AT&T is basically shaving a few months off the contract in order to get this group of high paying, early iPhone 3G adopters to renew their contract for an iPhone 3G S.

By: m3tric

m3tric — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:22:14 +0000

Haha Bob you rock. And everything you said is true.

“Apple: Hyping 5 year old technology since 2002″

By: Clay

Clay — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:22:36 +0000

I had 2 winmo devices and 3 Blacberry devices before buying the iphone 3g last September. I am not going back. Blackberry has great devices but I hated using winmo devices. Winmo is a kludge. I am a PC guy but MAC makes the best phones for sure.

By: E

Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:14:31 +0000

@Broker,

I think you should be fine with an AT

By: abe Aalen

abe Aalen — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:13:34 +0000

So, what the BGR team is saying is if you bought an iPhone 3G between July-September 2008 AND signed up to a 12 months contract, THEN they’ll be eligible for the subsidized price?

So if I bought my phone during that period but signed a normal 24 month contract and my upgrade date isn’t till January 2010, I’m SOL?

I think this point needs to be made clearer, because I think AT&T’s language I’d much clearer and logical.

By: Thal

Thal — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:32:14 +0000

HD, they have an app to listen to sirrius xm, I use pocket tunes app. It works great and listen to stern on it all the time. The iphone is awesome, type this on it right now. It’s a mini computer that makes phone calls.

By: yss

yss — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:14:36 +0000

@Sean76

I think there’s plenty of phones that can claim number #1 in each of your categories (except A which is clearly the iPhone). The iPhone just can claim top 5 in ANY category. Guess that makes it the overall leader. BTW, I use a Fuze, with WM 6.5 and have no desire to own an iPhone.

By: Broker

Broker — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:07:50 +0000

Trying to decide whether to Apple store or AT&T, I hear AT&T is sold out already and will not have any left for those who did not pre-order. Anyone else hear this?

By: Tim

Tim — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:49:56 +0000

@anyone who has anything negative to say about the iPhone and/or its customers.
The iPhone is a fantastic phone. People recognize this, and buy them. They buy the iPhone because it offers the features that they need or want in a mobile device. Not everyone’s wants/needs are the same. So please, stop trying to force your opinion on and rag on fans of this device. Do something more constructive with your time, like building a birdhouse. Lol

By: mike

mike — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:41:56 +0000

hey all you phuckin iphone fanboys…..get your heads out of your asses and wake up. the iphone is not the bees knees. my HTC touch can do everything the iphone can, and then some. i didnt need to wait for updates to copy and paste or send pics to my friends.

retards on a bandwagon

By: Cracken

Cracken — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:09:54 +0000

Just drove past 2 AT&T stores… both had cop cars in the parking lots. I don’t recall either store having off-duty Police as security during normal times… could it be for this upcoming release?

By: That1BrazilianBITCH

That1BrazilianBITCH — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:05:06 +0000

Your iPhone is ready and can be picked up at your local AT&T store as early as June 19th. For your convenience
AT&T stores will open at 7 AM on June 19th. Remember
you have 7 days from this notification to visit your AT&T store to pick up your order

***JUST IN RIGHT NOW!***
ME:HAPPY AS HELL!

By: Sean76

Sean76 — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:04:05 +0000

This is Great!!! I gotta say Apple is a hype machine, got everybody all wound up. And it’s all for good reason, the phone is extremely affordable, and really is a monster device. You show me a phone that’s
A- As user friendly as the iphone
b- Can do as much. Ranging from Media-Business
C- As hottttt and modern looking
D- Priced better for what u get!!!

No device exists, and this is coming from a Crackberry user. So until then, this conversation is pointless, useless, and really just filled with alot of Envy towards Apple!

By: That1BrazilianBITCH

That1BrazilianBITCH — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:55:51 +0000

them people must be @ the west coast….because it has been raining cats & dogs since last night in Jersey……..fuck that….line waiting in the rain….lol

By: Louie Knives

Louie Knives — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:48:12 +0000

Bob you forgot to mention the cool resistive touch screens and the awesome stylus that also double as a good head scratcher while your waiting for that snappy winmo platform to pull up that calender or you can use i t to hit the soft reset button when the phone crashes. Lighten up Bob just think how much easier it is to pick up a hot new winmo device on launch day rather waiting in line for a new phone with old features that could have been released in an update. Yeah I know 2X faster I’m sure the average user will notice.

By: dante

dante — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:46:10 +0000

I won’t be joining in the “fun” this year.

By: Kelly Hodgkins

Kelly Hodgkins — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:45:17 +0000

@all of you stating that we are misleading you

It is AT&T playing semantics. Our statement and AT&T’s press release are both accurate. Those that purchased the iPhone 3G between July and September 2008 will be eligible for the upgrade price, if they meet certain requirements. I mention that there are certain eligibility requirements that must be met.

Those that meet the requirements often have plans that last 12 months instead of 24 months and would be eligible for an upgrade between July and Sept 2009. Unfortunately, not too many people will meet those requirements.

By: icompute

icompute — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:42:41 +0000

Line up for a second rate phone on AT&T, why.

By: Conrad Hernandez

Conrad Hernandez — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:39:53 +0000

IPhone rules. All the haters only give the iPhone more momentum and gravity.

If the iPhone had a better camera, flash, physical keyboard, BlackBerry-like email functionality, I’d get one again. Meanwhile, I’m sticking with my BlackBerry Bold.

Very Truly Yours,

Conrad P. Hernández, MD.

By: Notaniphoneuser

Notaniphoneuser — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:34:35 +0000

Well, both a Chevy Impala and a BMW M3 have a steering wheel and 4 wheels, doesn’t mean they drive the same. I’ll take a BMW M3 any day.

By: midibite

midibite — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:31:51 +0000

Another iPhone? Oh, wait it’s the same iPhone with new features.

- Posted from Palm Pre