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	<title>Comments on: AT&amp;T to begin implementing N-SET in an effort to reduce 3G network strain</title>
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		<title>By: Barbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 05:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I vow to lessen any strain on AT&amp;Ts precious 3G network as soon as my contract is up. I plan to take my entire family (5 phones) with me. We are sick to death of being ripped off for data plans and messaging. We would love to own iphones or blackberry bolds...but think it&#039;s ridiculous that messaging is not included in the data plan and there is no provision for &quot;family&quot; data plan pricing. Will be watching how Sprint performs after the Palm Pre is released.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vow to lessen any strain on AT&amp;Ts precious 3G network as soon as my contract is up. I plan to take my entire family (5 phones) with me. We are sick to death of being ripped off for data plans and messaging. We would love to own iphones or blackberry bolds&#8230;but think it&#8217;s ridiculous that messaging is not included in the data plan and there is no provision for &#8220;family&#8221; data plan pricing. Will be watching how Sprint performs after the Palm Pre is released.
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		<title>By: J.EN.V</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.EN.V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 16:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone tell me, if there&#039;s so much congestion on the 3G network, why won&#039;t AT&amp;T move on to 4G instead of downgrading to 2G? Will 4G make things worse? I think I saw commercials for Sprint boasting they&#039;re now 4G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone tell me, if there&#8217;s so much congestion on the 3G network, why won&#8217;t AT&amp;T move on to 4G instead of downgrading to 2G? Will 4G make things worse? I think I saw commercials for Sprint boasting they&#8217;re now 4G.
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		<title>By: Big Ugly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Ugly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It amazes me. For 90% of the posters, here is a piece of advice. It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
There are several posters on here who have a clue, a lot that IMHO, are a waste of oxygen that I might need later in my life. There is nothing worse than an uninformed, uneducated person with an opinion.
I have been in the mobile telecommunications industy since the early 90&#039;s. We have come so far so fast in this industry, the technology involved is in reality, overwhelming. 

From my experience, most of the carrier haters are upset with the carriers as a result of their own stupidity. (Yes, there are cases with all carriers that are legit.) I have seen from personal experience instances like: &quot;I didn&#039;t pay my bill for 4 months and they cancelled me. That is so unfair.&quot; and &quot;I broke my phone and they wouldn&#039;t give me another one. They said I have to buy it.&quot; What people expect is amazing. How come they do not call their cable provider wanting a free TV? Same principle....

Back on topic, the program puts customers with no data usage on the 2G network. If the customer starts using data, they go back to the 3G network. End of story. It is less than 1% of the subscriber base nationwide, but it is enough to make a difference.

Sorry for the long winded post, but this is supposed to be a forum about technology, not people complaining because they are uninformed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It amazes me. For 90% of the posters, here is a piece of advice. It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.<br />
There are several posters on here who have a clue, a lot that IMHO, are a waste of oxygen that I might need later in my life. There is nothing worse than an uninformed, uneducated person with an opinion.<br />
I have been in the mobile telecommunications industy since the early 90&#8217;s. We have come so far so fast in this industry, the technology involved is in reality, overwhelming. </p>
<p>From my experience, most of the carrier haters are upset with the carriers as a result of their own stupidity. (Yes, there are cases with all carriers that are legit.) I have seen from personal experience instances like: &#8220;I didn&#8217;t pay my bill for 4 months and they cancelled me. That is so unfair.&#8221; and &#8220;I broke my phone and they wouldn&#8217;t give me another one. They said I have to buy it.&#8221; What people expect is amazing. How come they do not call their cable provider wanting a free TV? Same principle&#8230;.</p>
<p>Back on topic, the program puts customers with no data usage on the 2G network. If the customer starts using data, they go back to the 3G network. End of story. It is less than 1% of the subscriber base nationwide, but it is enough to make a difference.</p>
<p>Sorry for the long winded post, but this is supposed to be a forum about technology, not people complaining because they are uninformed.
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please do... and let&#039;s get the Eos on the exception list of devices which will only connect via 3G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please do&#8230; and let&#8217;s get the Eos on the exception list of devices which will only connect via 3G
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		<title>By: LollipopJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>LollipopJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 07:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they are basically doing the exact thing that VzW does.

 For all those morons claiming VzW&#039;s 3g network is better.  VzW partitions their network so all calls go through 1xRTT while all data uses EVDO Rev O and for the few phones that are EVDO Rev A.  AT&amp;T has more 3g capable phones then VzW has EVDO Rev A phones.  Every Single AT&amp;T 3g device uses the 3G network vs VzW which their 3G is only used for Data and that is it.

  What does this all mean?  It means that with VzW the 3G network only has to deal with data traffic and since the bulk of their customer base is not heavy Data users their 3G network is only in use by customers with Data plans.  AT%T&#039;s 3g however isn&#039;t... The 3g Network has to deal with both the Data users and then a HUGE amount of Voice only customers.

 Basically,  if you have 10,000 VzW customers with Evdo Devices only the Data plan (Vcast Vpak to Email and Web Packages) customers are using the 3g network.  So we are looking at 20 to 30% of that customer base using their 3g services.  If you have 10,000 AT&amp;T customers and they all have 3G devices then... ALL 10,000 customers are using the 3G Netowrk....


  Now do we understand why AT&amp;T&#039;s 3G is so clogged?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they are basically doing the exact thing that VzW does.</p>
<p> For all those morons claiming VzW&#8217;s 3g network is better.  VzW partitions their network so all calls go through 1xRTT while all data uses EVDO Rev O and for the few phones that are EVDO Rev A.  AT&amp;T has more 3g capable phones then VzW has EVDO Rev A phones.  Every Single AT&amp;T 3g device uses the 3G network vs VzW which their 3G is only used for Data and that is it.</p>
<p>  What does this all mean?  It means that with VzW the 3G network only has to deal with data traffic and since the bulk of their customer base is not heavy Data users their 3G network is only in use by customers with Data plans.  AT%T&#8217;s 3g however isn&#8217;t&#8230; The 3g Network has to deal with both the Data users and then a HUGE amount of Voice only customers.</p>
<p> Basically,  if you have 10,000 VzW customers with Evdo Devices only the Data plan (Vcast Vpak to Email and Web Packages) customers are using the 3g network.  So we are looking at 20 to 30% of that customer base using their 3g services.  If you have 10,000 AT&amp;T customers and they all have 3G devices then&#8230; ALL 10,000 customers are using the 3G Netowrk&#8230;.</p>
<p>  Now do we understand why AT&amp;T&#8217;s 3G is so clogged?
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		<title>By: MarkM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 20:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d think that these brainiacs would have figured this one out on day one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d think that these brainiacs would have figured this one out on day one&#8230;
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		<title>By: Christopher Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@YH Kwon,
Sure it can work! Your phone polls the towers at interval and to initiate a data connection. When your phone polls, the towers can tell the phone to use 2G. And when your phone polls for a data connection, it can switch to 3G. Your phone does not have to do anything because it already does what is required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@YH Kwon,<br />
Sure it can work! Your phone polls the towers at interval and to initiate a data connection. When your phone polls, the towers can tell the phone to use 2G. And when your phone polls for a data connection, it can switch to 3G. Your phone does not have to do anything because it already does what is required.
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		<title>By: YH Kwon</title>
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		<dc:creator>YH Kwon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 04:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m not pretty sure whether this N-SET can work even for the incumbent devices in the market without any update at the device software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m not pretty sure whether this N-SET can work even for the incumbent devices in the market without any update at the device software.
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 20:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of you people need professional help, do you really think anyone cares if you dont like an iPhone or Blackberry or Nokia or anything? most of us dont really care what you think, if you have an iPhone then enjoy your phone and let me enjoy mine, does ragging at someone elses opinion and being unable to express yourself without swearin make you feel good? that appears to be the case, oh, I have a 3G iPhone and a Bold (Both on AT&amp;T and I love their service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you people need professional help, do you really think anyone cares if you dont like an iPhone or Blackberry or Nokia or anything? most of us dont really care what you think, if you have an iPhone then enjoy your phone and let me enjoy mine, does ragging at someone elses opinion and being unable to express yourself without swearin make you feel good? that appears to be the case, oh, I have a 3G iPhone and a Bold (Both on AT&amp;T and I love their service.
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		<title>By: celz</title>
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		<dc:creator>celz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 17:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know at&amp;t works best for some.. but im in so cal.. im pullin down 2.5mbps when tethered and i dont know what a dropped call is.. and who cares if sprint dies they would jus get bought out and any debt wouldnt be passed on.. but everything else would be.. so the worse that can happen is to raise prices to vzw level.. but that probably wouldnt happen either.. talk crap if you want but sprint is the best carrier in the west</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know at&amp;t works best for some.. but im in so cal.. im pullin down 2.5mbps when tethered and i dont know what a dropped call is.. and who cares if sprint dies they would jus get bought out and any debt wouldnt be passed on.. but everything else would be.. so the worse that can happen is to raise prices to vzw level.. but that probably wouldnt happen either.. talk crap if you want but sprint is the best carrier in the west
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		<title>By: GSM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 16:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people crying are just people who have Verizon who want iPhones but can&#039;t get them because their carrier is running a dying technology already hitting its limits (albeit one that works well for voice).  AT&amp;T has been doing a lot of upgrades in my area lately, so service has been sketchy, but befoer that I can tell you I did not notice one difference between them and Verizon...and I had a RZR for like 4 years...so I did not find myself locked in a contract when the iPhone rolled out.  In all honesty, half the people whining have probably never had AT&amp;T or Cingular for that matter.

/boohoo

To stay on topic, I am on the fence about this move.  They should work at transitioning exclusively to 3G in the next couple of years.  It seems strange since I think BGR was just publishing stories a month ago about AT&amp;T strengthening their backbone and such.  Guess not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people crying are just people who have Verizon who want iPhones but can&#8217;t get them because their carrier is running a dying technology already hitting its limits (albeit one that works well for voice).  AT&amp;T has been doing a lot of upgrades in my area lately, so service has been sketchy, but befoer that I can tell you I did not notice one difference between them and Verizon&#8230;and I had a RZR for like 4 years&#8230;so I did not find myself locked in a contract when the iPhone rolled out.  In all honesty, half the people whining have probably never had AT&amp;T or Cingular for that matter.</p>
<p>/boohoo</p>
<p>To stay on topic, I am on the fence about this move.  They should work at transitioning exclusively to 3G in the next couple of years.  It seems strange since I think BGR was just publishing stories a month ago about AT&amp;T strengthening their backbone and such.  Guess not.
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 14:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly. people don&#039;t know what they&#039;re blabbing about half the time. and its all relative to where you live. in my area, AT&amp;T destroys Verizon in every single imaginable way. and most places that i have traveled its the same scenario. but Big Red has its areas of the country where it dominates and is better than AT&amp;T. but its not better as a whole imho, just different and better at times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly. people don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re blabbing about half the time. and its all relative to where you live. in my area, AT&amp;T destroys Verizon in every single imaginable way. and most places that i have traveled its the same scenario. but Big Red has its areas of the country where it dominates and is better than AT&amp;T. but its not better as a whole imho, just different and better at times.
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 14:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont understnad why people bash at&amp;t so hard. . i&#039;ve traveled accross the country and have had verizon 3g and att 3g capable phones and i use extreme lab &quot;speed test&quot; and my at&amp;t phone 9 times out of 10 beats out verizon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont understnad why people bash at&amp;t so hard. . i&#8217;ve traveled accross the country and have had verizon 3g and att 3g capable phones and i use extreme lab &#8220;speed test&#8221; and my at&amp;t phone 9 times out of 10 beats out verizon.
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		<title>By: Christopher Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James Smith,
What are you talking about? I am a huge fan of the iPhone. I have done nothing but defend it, saying the best part about it is the apps and the support it has because it is more like a portable computer than a phone. I also love Blackberries, and have one of those too. so where do you get off bashing me and assuming I work at McDonalds? I actually teach Unix administration, web development and PHP programming here in Arizona.

I completely that iPhone is a great platform for doctors, and a lot of them use it. It will also get a lot better with 3.0 because of the port API support. I have read a lot about the new medical devices/apps coming out for iPhone come 3.0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James Smith,<br />
What are you talking about? I am a huge fan of the iPhone. I have done nothing but defend it, saying the best part about it is the apps and the support it has because it is more like a portable computer than a phone. I also love Blackberries, and have one of those too. so where do you get off bashing me and assuming I work at McDonalds? I actually teach Unix administration, web development and PHP programming here in Arizona.</p>
<p>I completely that iPhone is a great platform for doctors, and a lot of them use it. It will also get a lot better with 3.0 because of the port API support. I have read a lot about the new medical devices/apps coming out for iPhone come 3.0.
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		<title>By: billbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>billbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 12:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop working at burger king and you could afford the iphone....hater</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop working at burger king and you could afford the iphone&#8230;.hater
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		<title>By: fresh2death618</title>
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		<dc:creator>fresh2death618</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 10:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Balidilocks take your ass back to howardforums. At</description>
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		<title>By: james smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>james smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 08:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@C-cox or is it cocks?

Over 15 million people have iphones and they are all soccer moms, and 14 year olds. Yeah sounds about right. 

I am a MD and all my peers use iphones. Not Blackberries. I will take a jailbroken iphone with OSX over any &quot;smartphone&#039; OS any day of the week. The iphone is a computer, not a phone. Last time I checked I cannot check on my patients CT scan while I get gas in &quot;real time&#039; on any other device. That includes blackberries. 

I really think that BGR has it out for ATT, maybe this stuff is made up, because I don&#039;t have any problems and don&#039;t know anyone with ATT that does. I am getting 2000 down on average and 1000 up on average. Much faster than verizon and I can get data and use the web at the same time. As well travel the world with GSM. Try using a phone from verizon to do that. Good luck. 



OH, and next time I talk to you at McDonalds try not to ask &#039;do you want fries with that&#039;. Seems that matches your mentality. Perfect job for you..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@C-cox or is it cocks?</p>
<p>Over 15 million people have iphones and they are all soccer moms, and 14 year olds. Yeah sounds about right. </p>
<p>I am a MD and all my peers use iphones. Not Blackberries. I will take a jailbroken iphone with OSX over any &#8220;smartphone&#8217; OS any day of the week. The iphone is a computer, not a phone. Last time I checked I cannot check on my patients CT scan while I get gas in &#8220;real time&#8217; on any other device. That includes blackberries. </p>
<p>I really think that BGR has it out for ATT, maybe this stuff is made up, because I don&#8217;t have any problems and don&#8217;t know anyone with ATT that does. I am getting 2000 down on average and 1000 up on average. Much faster than verizon and I can get data and use the web at the same time. As well travel the world with GSM. Try using a phone from verizon to do that. Good luck. </p>
<p>OH, and next time I talk to you at McDonalds try not to ask &#8216;do you want fries with that&#8217;. Seems that matches your mentality. Perfect job for you..
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		<title>By: dont-hate</title>
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		<dc:creator>dont-hate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 06:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@terryjohnson16
Not really. Here in Arizona AT</description>
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Not really. Here in Arizona AT
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		<title>By: cortez.i</title>
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		<dc:creator>cortez.i</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 05:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hummmmm?? i&#039;m paying for the ability to simultaneously talk, surf the web, tether and/or receive emails, etc. this story reads like the load-balancing (poo-poo) might disable the simulataneous features if i&#039;m making a call???</description>
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		<title>By: Baldilocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baldilocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 03:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There sure are a lot of anti-AT&amp;T crybabies on here.

It&#039;s just a network, they are just phones. No one cares about your hate.  Move on, get over it and grow the hell up.

I have yet to see any constructive and positive ideas about this whole thing. Personally I think that BGR should disable comments because lately it just seems like a bunch of trolls who post them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There sure are a lot of anti-AT&amp;T crybabies on here.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a network, they are just phones. No one cares about your hate.  Move on, get over it and grow the hell up.</p>
<p>I have yet to see any constructive and positive ideas about this whole thing. Personally I think that BGR should disable comments because lately it just seems like a bunch of trolls who post them.
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		<title>By: Baldilocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baldilocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 03:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You, kid, are a moron.</description>
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		<title>By: Christopher Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 01:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Agent Smith,
What a way to not understand what is going on. If your phone is using 3G, then all of your calls happen on that side of the network. Most people with phones that are not Bold or iPhone don&#039;t use 3G data as heavily, so there is no reason to congest that network. What they are doing doesn&#039;t mean they won&#039;t be able to get 3G speeds if they need it. It means they will talk on the 2G side, and when they need 3G it will switch over automatically. They could get rid of their problems if they dumped all of their 2G phones and purchased 3G only, putting everyone on one pipe so they wouldn&#039;t have the separation to deal with. But I doubt they would do that.

The main reason iPhone and Bold are exception is because both of those phones benefit highly from simultaneous voice and data, which is not possible under EDGE. With the Bold, it is beneficial to get corporate email while on a voice conference. On the iPhone, I constantly speak on the phone while using google maps and checking my exchange email. The other phones don&#039;t use 3G in an iPhone or Bold manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Agent Smith,<br />
What a way to not understand what is going on. If your phone is using 3G, then all of your calls happen on that side of the network. Most people with phones that are not Bold or iPhone don&#8217;t use 3G data as heavily, so there is no reason to congest that network. What they are doing doesn&#8217;t mean they won&#8217;t be able to get 3G speeds if they need it. It means they will talk on the 2G side, and when they need 3G it will switch over automatically. They could get rid of their problems if they dumped all of their 2G phones and purchased 3G only, putting everyone on one pipe so they wouldn&#8217;t have the separation to deal with. But I doubt they would do that.</p>
<p>The main reason iPhone and Bold are exception is because both of those phones benefit highly from simultaneous voice and data, which is not possible under EDGE. With the Bold, it is beneficial to get corporate email while on a voice conference. On the iPhone, I constantly speak on the phone while using google maps and checking my exchange email. The other phones don&#8217;t use 3G in an iPhone or Bold manner.
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		<title>By: Christopher Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 01:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mingkee
About 1.3 tethered ... so almost like yours. My point is that the network is only as good as your local market is. T-Mobile 3G isn&#039;t as comprehensive as everyone else, and that is a fact because hell, they aren&#039;t done rolling it out yet! lol But if it is up and running in your area, then T-Mobile is awesome for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mingkee<br />
About 1.3 tethered &#8230; so almost like yours. My point is that the network is only as good as your local market is. T-Mobile 3G isn&#8217;t as comprehensive as everyone else, and that is a fact because hell, they aren&#8217;t done rolling it out yet! lol But if it is up and running in your area, then T-Mobile is awesome for you.
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		<title>By: mingkee</title>
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		<dc:creator>mingkee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 01:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C Cox:
how fast you can get with ATT 3G?
I usually get 1Mbps with T-Mobile, using netbook tethered with TM506, the speed is consistent most of the time in Lower Manhattan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C Cox:<br />
how fast you can get with ATT 3G?<br />
I usually get 1Mbps with T-Mobile, using netbook tethered with TM506, the speed is consistent most of the time in Lower Manhattan
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		<title>By: Agent Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agent Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 00:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;re telling me AT&amp;T&#039;s wonderful plan is to force voice-only users to 2G? I can&#039;t wait til all their handsets hork because of constant baseband resets.

Also what is the point of having a 3G handset capable of simultaneous voice and data if you&#039;re forced to 2G? You won&#039;t be able to do simultaneous voice and data without power-cycling your radio and hoping AT&amp;T gives you permission to use 3G!

Why don&#039;t they reduce the amount of GSM/EDGE sites and deploy more WCDMA? That&#039;s the correct solution. Oh wait that costs them money. Easier to screw the customer over than do the right thing.

More GSM TDMA noise, brought to you by The New AT&amp;T™

Good reporting BGR. People need to know how they&#039;re getting screwed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re telling me AT&amp;T&#8217;s wonderful plan is to force voice-only users to 2G? I can&#8217;t wait til all their handsets hork because of constant baseband resets.</p>
<p>Also what is the point of having a 3G handset capable of simultaneous voice and data if you&#8217;re forced to 2G? You won&#8217;t be able to do simultaneous voice and data without power-cycling your radio and hoping AT&amp;T gives you permission to use 3G!</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t they reduce the amount of GSM/EDGE sites and deploy more WCDMA? That&#8217;s the correct solution. Oh wait that costs them money. Easier to screw the customer over than do the right thing.</p>
<p>More GSM TDMA noise, brought to you by The New AT&amp;T™</p>
<p>Good reporting BGR. People need to know how they&#8217;re getting screwed.
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		<title>By: j3ff</title>
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		<dc:creator>j3ff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 22:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m already quite happy with the service and speed I get on my BB Bold in Miami, FL. Hopefully this helps out the rest of you constantly bitching about your city&#039;s poor service and assuming your experience = the entire AT&amp;T network performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;m already quite happy with the service and speed I get on my BB Bold in Miami, FL. Hopefully this helps out the rest of you constantly bitching about your city&#8217;s poor service and assuming your experience = the entire AT&amp;T network performance.
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		<title>By: Witty!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Witty!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 22:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LoL @ all these comments! I love it!</description>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 22:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe now I&#039;ll start geting more than 250k down on my Bold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe now I&#8217;ll start geting more than 250k down on my Bold.
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		<title>By: jeffdc5</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffdc5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 22:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NY area and have no issues  but hope this helps those who are having issues.

P.S. I have both the iPhone 3g and Bold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NY area and have no issues  but hope this helps those who are having issues.</p>
<p>P.S. I have both the iPhone 3g and Bold.
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		<title>By: gokmengs</title>
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		<dc:creator>gokmengs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 21:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@terryjohnson16;
I&#039;ve been with tmo, for years(I&#039;m talking aerial days)and I lived in 2 cities(tampa and now NYC) and tmo service always sucked, I finally bolted to att knowing very well vzw has better service,since I frequently go to europe where vzw is useless. I can speak from my experience in 2 cities and att has better service than tmo hands down. 
True honest opinion from experience, I could care less about carriers, I really don&#039;t get people here advertising, or arguing with people over carriers, do they get bonus minutes because they are cheerleading their carrier with lame lines like &quot;come join us&quot; Cirque De SoLame</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@terryjohnson16;<br />
I&#8217;ve been with tmo, for years(I&#8217;m talking aerial days)and I lived in 2 cities(tampa and now NYC) and tmo service always sucked, I finally bolted to att knowing very well vzw has better service,since I frequently go to europe where vzw is useless. I can speak from my experience in 2 cities and att has better service than tmo hands down.<br />
True honest opinion from experience, I could care less about carriers, I really don&#8217;t get people here advertising, or arguing with people over carriers, do they get bonus minutes because they are cheerleading their carrier with lame lines like &#8220;come join us&#8221; Cirque De SoLame
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