Comments on: New Palm OS and device to be unveiled at CES http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:07:19 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Steve http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-369551 Steve Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:53:29 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=11558#comment-369551 I believe palm has a significant chance of making a comeback with this new O/S. The Centro did help them regain lost ground, despite the dated Garnet O/S and mediocre hardware. It was affordable, had lots of features, and thus caught the consumer’s eye. If they make a trend of it and come out with (seriously) a prettier, less buggy O/S, they will regain all the faithfulness of previous palm fans (myself included) and attract more of the market. However, if they delay the release of the new O/S to the second half of the year, even if they make another Centro-priced gem, they will likely fail. My assumption is that they will likely delay the release of NOVA until mid-year, and release more WinMo devices in the meantime. Why they can’t go with Android or Access’s new O/S will just have to remain a mystery until then. I believe palm has a significant chance of making a comeback with this new O/S. The Centro did help them regain lost ground, despite the dated Garnet O/S and mediocre hardware. It was affordable, had lots of features, and thus caught the consumer’s eye. If they make a trend of it and come out with (seriously) a prettier, less buggy O/S, they will regain all the faithfulness of previous palm fans (myself included) and attract more of the market. However, if they delay the release of the new O/S to the second half of the year, even if they make another Centro-priced gem, they will likely fail. My assumption is that they will likely delay the release of NOVA until mid-year, and release more WinMo devices in the meantime. Why they can’t go with Android or Access’s new O/S will just have to remain a mystery until then.

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]]> By: Michael http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-351605 Michael Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:24:30 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=11558#comment-351605 I have used Palm products for close to 10 years and have had every Treo VZ sells. I am still using the 755 number 3 with the latest update and it’s been pretty stable. It is not fast and it still gets confused but I have not seen anything yet worth dumping it for. I was hoping VZ would pick up the Treo Pro but after talking with them they just don’t want the headaches palm brings on. Palm should take a good look at the I-Phone because that could have been them. Palms problem I believe is that they put the almighty dollar ahead of the public and by doing so they lost their business. Steve Jobs built it and knew they would come, user friendly, fast, Wi-Fi, and touch screen; gee didn’t palm have a touch screen for years. Palm shelves’ their products and knowledge to darn long instead of giving the best one upfront, hoe many treos. They insist on reinventing the wheel instead of making a faster and better one. And let’s not forget their tech support which was beyond pathetic for the longest of time, English please. I wish them well but it looks like farewell. I have used Palm products for close to 10 years and have had every Treo VZ sells. I am still using the 755 number 3 with the latest update and it’s been pretty stable. It is not fast and it still gets confused but I have not seen anything yet worth dumping it for. I was hoping VZ would pick up the Treo Pro but after talking with them they just don’t want the headaches palm brings on. Palm should take a good look at the I-Phone because that could have been them. Palms problem I believe is that they put the almighty dollar ahead of the public and by doing so they lost their business. Steve Jobs built it and knew they would come, user friendly, fast, Wi-Fi, and touch screen; gee didn’t palm have a touch screen for years. Palm shelves’ their products and knowledge to darn long instead of giving the best one upfront, hoe many treos. They insist on reinventing the wheel instead of making a faster and better one. And let’s not forget their tech support which was beyond pathetic for the longest of time, English please. I wish them well but it looks like farewell.

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]]> By: Ken http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-350231 Ken Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:43:52 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=11558#comment-350231 That's what they said about Apple Computers. That’s what they said about Apple Computers.

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]]> By: Ken http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-350228 Ken Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:42:46 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=11558#comment-350228 Have a little faith in Palm. Palm has the most capable phones on the planet. I know they will have something that will convince you to come back. I have co-workers and colleagues who have left Palm, but have returned or waiting for the "newness." I can't wait... I am a true die-hard palm fanatic. I've had just about every single Palm that has come out including the Sony Clie which had the Plam OS. I have the Centro now and I'm satisfied with it. The Centro can do everything that your Blackberry can do and more. Guaranteed! Have a little faith in Palm. Palm has the most capable phones on the planet. I know they will have something that will convince you to come back. I have co-workers and colleagues who have left Palm, but have returned or waiting for the “newness.” I can’t wait…

I am a true die-hard palm fanatic. I’ve had just about every single Palm that has come out including the Sony Clie which had the Plam OS. I have the Centro now and I’m satisfied with it. The Centro can do everything that your Blackberry can do and more. Guaranteed!

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]]> By: Lee http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-348669 Lee Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:35:47 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=11558#comment-348669 All Touch is a fad. Soon everything will be touch including your toilet. Then we will go back to buttons and my Centro will look stylish again... Then I'll have to get rid of it. All Touch is a fad. Soon everything will be touch including your toilet. Then we will go back to buttons and my Centro will look stylish again…

Then I’ll have to get rid of it.

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]]> By: Lee http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-348666 Lee Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:32:44 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=11558#comment-348666 Made in china=cheap Free/Virtually Free=subsidized. If your phones sell well, they buy more. If your phone makes people buy data plans, it makes the carriers happy and they want more. Do you not see that, Genius? Made in china=cheap
Free/Virtually Free=subsidized. If your phones sell well, they buy more. If your phone makes people buy data plans, it makes the carriers happy and they want more. Do you not see that, Genius?

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]]> By: backbeat http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-347066 backbeat Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:23:42 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=11558#comment-347066 Benji, Benji, Benji ... Success is not defined by how many free/virtually, Made-in-China free phones you can flood into the market, genius. Centro cannot be considered a success by any sober business measurement. Sprint + Palm + 1st-Gen OS = _Catastrophic_Failure_ Benji, Benji, Benji …

Success is not defined by how many free/virtually, Made-in-China free phones you can flood into the market, genius. Centro cannot be considered a success by any sober business measurement.

Sprint + Palm + 1st-Gen OS = _Catastrophic_Failure_

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]]> By: bluehorseshoe http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-346552 bluehorseshoe Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:50:07 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=11558#comment-346552 In my opinion, this is the last attempt Palm has at sticking around. If the OS flunks, so long Palm...it's been nice knowing ya. In my opinion, this is the last attempt Palm has at sticking around. If the OS flunks, so long Palm…it’s been nice knowing ya.

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]]> By: Gauntlet Down http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-346457 Gauntlet Down Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:10:27 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=11558#comment-346457 The main guy behind Chattermail (and some other significant one named "Josh") apparently became an ex-Palm employee yesterday. One would think they would have hung around fro good news, huh? http://www.chatteremailforum.com/index.php?option=com_forum&Itemid=71&page=viewtopic&t=4720&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= The main guy behind Chattermail (and some other significant one named “Josh”) apparently became an ex-Palm employee yesterday. One would think they would have hung around fro good news, huh?

http://www.chatteremailforum.com/index.php?option=com_forum&Itemid=71&page=viewtopic&t=4720&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

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]]> By: BC http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-346334 BC Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:24:07 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=11558#comment-346334 Eh, I think it's too late for them. I was a long time advocate of Palm. I defended them, but recently it's become quite difficult. Their phones are more like toys now... small, tiny screens, functions that were only adequate three years ago. EnGadget implored them to change their products, giving them a slate of good ideas, which Ed Corrigan promised would happen, but it looks like it's too little, too late. If I, one of their most loyal, have jumped ship for Blackberry (just got the Storm), how much longer could they have? Eh, I think it’s too late for them.

I was a long time advocate of Palm. I defended them, but recently it’s become quite difficult. Their phones are more like toys now… small, tiny screens, functions that were only adequate three years ago.

EnGadget implored them to change their products, giving them a slate of good ideas, which Ed Corrigan promised would happen, but it looks like it’s too little, too late.

If I, one of their most loyal, have jumped ship for Blackberry (just got the Storm), how much longer could they have?

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]]> By: Gauntlet Down http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-346141 Gauntlet Down Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:37:46 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=11558#comment-346141 > ...I think BGR and other blogs are setting the > bar almost impossibly high for Palm’s new OS... Yup yup yup. > ...From reading the business week article, I > think it’s going to be a good OS that can > compete in the market... There is no evidence internal to the Businessweek article to suggest anything about what's coming January 8th. A bunch of undated quotes that say the same thing as much much earlier dated quotes (like from June 2007!) are not proof or revelation of anything. > …I think BGR and other blogs are setting the
> bar almost impossibly high for Palm’s new OS…

Yup yup yup.

> …From reading the business week article, I
> think it’s going to be a good OS that can
> compete in the market…

There is no evidence internal to the Businessweek article to suggest anything about what’s coming January 8th. A bunch of undated quotes that say the same thing as much much earlier dated quotes (like from June 2007!) are not proof or revelation of anything.

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]]> By: Bill http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-346015 Bill Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:49:19 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=11558#comment-346015 I have an iPhone, but Palm has a special place in my heart as the Palm III was the first gadget I ever had. I'm pulling for them, but I think BGR and other blogs are setting the bar almost impossibly high for Palm's new OS. From reading the business week article, I think it's going to be a good OS that can compete in the market; but it's not going to set the world on fire. I have an iPhone, but Palm has a special place in my heart as the Palm III was the first gadget I ever had. I’m pulling for them, but I think BGR and other blogs are setting the bar almost impossibly high for Palm’s new OS. From reading the business week article, I think it’s going to be a good OS that can compete in the market; but it’s not going to set the world on fire.

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]]> By: bob http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-345999 bob Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:46:32 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=11558#comment-345999 That's not true. They've been working on this for years. The management change a couple years ago shut down some projects and created new ones, and nova was already under development as it was suppose to be already released by now. Knowing that, it's quite possible for Palm to have something up their sleeve. A lot of people have put a lot of money in, including irish rock stars, surely they must have saw something they like and it certainly wasn't their current sales. That’s not true. They’ve been working on this for years.

The management change a couple years ago shut down some projects and created new ones, and nova was already under development as it was suppose to be already released by now. Knowing that, it’s quite possible for Palm to have something up their sleeve. A lot of people have put a lot of money in, including irish rock stars, surely they must have saw something they like and it certainly wasn’t their current sales.

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]]> By: Ben http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-345947 Ben Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:30:06 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=11558#comment-345947 Palm saw their most recent success with the Centro, but made the device a bit too complicated for the average consumer with a lot of unnecessary applications. There hasn't been enough time elapsed since we heard the rumors of this new phone since the Treo Pro for them to create an entirely new phone, so an all-touch headset based on the Centro seems like to be the culprit. Nova will be nothing more than an all-touch version of the current Palm OS. Count it and one Palm saw their most recent success with the Centro, but made the device a bit too complicated for the average consumer with a lot of unnecessary applications. There hasn’t been enough time elapsed since we heard the rumors of this new phone since the Treo Pro for them to create an entirely new phone, so an all-touch headset based on the Centro seems like to be the culprit. Nova will be nothing more than an all-touch version of the current Palm OS. Count it and one

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]]> By: Gauntlet Down http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/15/new-palm-os-and-device-to-be-unveiled-at-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-345926 Gauntlet Down Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:25:28 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=11558#comment-345926 Confirmed? No. Confirmed?

No.

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