Comments on: Verizon Wireless has unlocked the GPS on the 8330 Curve and the 8130 Pearl? http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/ Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:43:04 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ron http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-3/#comment-540386 ron Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:58:17 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-540386 Verizon has also unlocked the HTC phones. You have to dowwnload the new rom. Do a search @verizon for software updates under the Touch pro Verizon has also unlocked the HTC phones. You have to dowwnload the new rom. Do a search @verizon for software updates under the Touch pro

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]]> By: DavidB http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-3/#comment-490856 DavidB Thu, 28 May 2009 14:51:15 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-490856 Verizon finally released on OS 4.5 upgrade for the 8830 about a month ago. You can get it here: http://vzw.smithmicro.com/blackberry/ Once you have it installed, the GPS will work with BlackBerry Maps. But just like with the 8130 and 8330, that is the ONLY free application that can access the GPS. Verizon is still preventing any other GPS enabled application from working with their 8x30 BlackBerry smartphones. GPS applications require authentication with a "PDE Server" in order to gain access to the location information and Verizon has locked down what apps can authenticate. ONLY BlackBerry Maps that comes in OS 4.5 and the pay per month VZNavigator and TeleNav are able to authenticate and thus get a GPS fix. And yes, the Storm has more GPS enabled applications available, but only because Verizon has apparently relaxed their policies where OS 4.7 is concerned. As stated, many applications for the 8x30 series CAN use an external GPS receiver over Bluetooth though. Which really makes all the justification Verizon uses to restrict the GPS pointless. Verizon claims they do this to protect your privacy and user information, yet the exact same app that can't access the internal GPS CAN access an external GPS. So how is that protecting anything other than Verizon's revenue stream for VZNavigator??? Verizon finally released on OS 4.5 upgrade for the 8830 about a month ago. You can get it here: http://vzw.smithmicro.com/blackberry/

Once you have it installed, the GPS will work with BlackBerry Maps. But just like with the 8130 and 8330, that is the ONLY free application that can access the GPS. Verizon is still preventing any other GPS enabled application from working with their 8×30 BlackBerry smartphones. GPS applications require authentication with a “PDE Server” in order to gain access to the location information and Verizon has locked down what apps can authenticate. ONLY BlackBerry Maps that comes in OS 4.5 and the pay per month VZNavigator and TeleNav are able to authenticate and thus get a GPS fix. And yes, the Storm has more GPS enabled applications available, but only because Verizon has apparently relaxed their policies where OS 4.7 is concerned.

As stated, many applications for the 8×30 series CAN use an external GPS receiver over Bluetooth though. Which really makes all the justification Verizon uses to restrict the GPS pointless. Verizon claims they do this to protect your privacy and user information, yet the exact same app that can’t access the internal GPS CAN access an external GPS. So how is that protecting anything other than Verizon’s revenue stream for VZNavigator???

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]]> By: Roland Bissell http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-3/#comment-490819 Roland Bissell Thu, 28 May 2009 14:09:18 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-490819 Hi George, I think you are out of luck. GPS is not enabled on the Verizon 8330. The only device, and correct me if I am wrong, that Verizon has enabled the GPS for is the Storm. Alternatively, using Bluetooth, you can access most applications using and external GPS device such as Garmin. Cheers. Hi George,
I think you are out of luck. GPS is not enabled on the Verizon 8330. The only device, and correct me if I am wrong, that Verizon has enabled the GPS for is the Storm. Alternatively, using Bluetooth, you can access most applications using and external GPS device such as Garmin. Cheers.

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]]> By: George http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-3/#comment-489202 George Thu, 28 May 2009 02:43:29 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-489202 Hi Newfs. Where and how do I download the software enabling the built in GPS on my Verizon 8830 WE? Thanks. George Hi Newfs.

Where and how do I download the software enabling the built in GPS on my Verizon 8830 WE?
Thanks.

George

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]]> By: AKS http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-3/#comment-404088 AKS Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:15:32 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-404088 I just spoke with a Verizon rep about the Omnia -- he told me that to use outside GPS apps like Google Maps, it's a matter of simply enabling it in the Registry. I don't have the phone to test that, though. I just spoke with a Verizon rep about the Omnia — he told me that to use outside GPS apps like Google Maps, it’s a matter of simply enabling it in the Registry. I don’t have the phone to test that, though.

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]]> By: http://resourcesandmoney.blogspot.com http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-3/#comment-349539 http://resourcesandmoney.blogspot.com Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:06:27 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-349539 Hopefully, they become popular in the Philippines. I hope they can penetrate our market. Hopefully, they become popular in the Philippines. I hope they can penetrate our market.

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]]> By: Lon http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-3/#comment-348756 Lon Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:25:21 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-348756 @David B: Like I said I live where switching is not an option due to coverage issues. I DO blame Verizon for disabling/mucking up their phones and their services. Obviously from the lawsuit referenced earlier in this comment thread others do as well. From the HTC Touch Pro keyboard to the hobbled Blackberry Curve Verizon see's fit to take decent devices and hamstring them. You seem to be making my argument for me as yes it is Verizon that needs to change... @David B:

Like I said I live where switching is not an option due to coverage issues.

I DO blame Verizon for disabling/mucking up their phones and their services. Obviously from the lawsuit referenced earlier in this comment thread others do as well.

From the HTC Touch Pro keyboard to the hobbled Blackberry Curve Verizon see’s fit to take decent devices and hamstring them.

You seem to be making my argument for me as yes it is Verizon that needs to change…

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]]> By: DavidB http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-3/#comment-347785 DavidB Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:36:08 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-347785 @Lon: You blame Verizon for a sucky search experience in a program written by RIM? Right. And that would be fixed by switching to ATT or TMO or whatever. Right. If you want GMaps to work with the now opened GPS on Verizon Blackberry smartphones, you as a customer of that free Google app must convince them they should submit their app for approval by Verizon. I doubt they have to DO anything to the code, they just need to convince Verizon they aren't doing anything untoward with your location data and pay whatever approval fee there is and Verizon could turn it on at the PDE servers. Gmaps already work the Sprint devices, which are identical inside to Verizon devices, its all controlled by the servers and Google just needs to get Verizon to flip the switch and it will then work. Same for any app to get GPS on a Verizon Blackberry. @Lon:
You blame Verizon for a sucky search experience in a program written by RIM? Right. And that would be fixed by switching to ATT or TMO or whatever. Right.

If you want GMaps to work with the now opened GPS on Verizon Blackberry smartphones, you as a customer of that free Google app must convince them they should submit their app for approval by Verizon. I doubt they have to DO anything to the code, they just need to convince Verizon they aren’t doing anything untoward with your location data and pay whatever approval fee there is and Verizon could turn it on at the PDE servers. Gmaps already work the Sprint devices, which are identical inside to Verizon devices, its all controlled by the servers and Google just needs to get Verizon to flip the switch and it will then work. Same for any app to get GPS on a Verizon Blackberry.

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]]> By: Lon http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-3/#comment-347347 Lon Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:32:32 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-347347 Holy mother of Pearl... it works! (Verizon 8130 v4.5.0.77) My BlackBerry Maps works but the search sucks, badly and Google Maps does not connect to the phones GPS. Gawd Verizon sucks... if I only lived in an area that any other provider had decent coverage but I don't so it's Verizon the Disabler for me. >sob< Holy mother of Pearl… it works!

(Verizon 8130 v4.5.0.77)
My BlackBerry Maps works but the search sucks, badly and Google Maps does not connect to the phones GPS.

Gawd Verizon sucks… if I only lived in an area that any other provider had decent coverage but I don’t so it’s Verizon the Disabler for me. >sob<

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]]> By: Katherine http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-3/#comment-339368 Katherine Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:36:23 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-339368 I just got the 8330 and while I wasn't able to download Google Maps just 2 weeks ago, it now works perfectly! Google just launched a new version of its Google Mobile app, and you can download Maps through the home screen. You can get turn-by-turn directions - I'm so happy! I just got the 8330 and while I wasn’t able to download Google Maps just 2 weeks ago, it now works perfectly! Google just launched a new version of its Google Mobile app, and you can download Maps through the home screen. You can get turn-by-turn directions – I’m so happy!

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]]> By: Cypher http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-3/#comment-338595 Cypher Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:37:58 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-338595 I uploaded new firm ware and had GPS working on my 8130 for 5 min. I did a *22899 update and it gave me the message "GPS disabled" Looks like Verizon found the loop hole and closed it. Those dirty dogs. I uploaded new firm ware and had GPS working on my 8130 for 5 min. I did a *22899 update and it gave me the message “GPS disabled” Looks like Verizon found the loop hole and closed it. Those dirty dogs.

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]]> By: Rw http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-3/#comment-338027 Rw Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:41:48 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-338027 I have BB8830 loaded with 4.5.0.77 and my bb maps with gps started working since yesterday i was not able to used or get any satellites when it scanned before but since yesterday it is working fine. i don't know if Verizon did something but i had all the serives default never changed but ever since yesterday my bb maps I am able to pick up satellites and navigate maps with moving arrow. its just awasome. I have BB8830 loaded with 4.5.0.77 and my bb maps with gps started working since yesterday i was not able to used or get any satellites when it scanned before but since yesterday it is working fine. i don’t know if Verizon did something but i had all the serives default never changed but ever since yesterday my bb maps I am able to pick up satellites and navigate maps with moving arrow. its just awasome.

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]]> By: DavidB http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-337969 DavidB Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:25:44 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-337969 @jesse: Did you upgrade to a 4.5 os? Did you do a battery pull? Try resending services books from your BIS login? Just some thoughts... @jesse:
Did you upgrade to a 4.5 os?
Did you do a battery pull?
Try resending services books from your BIS login?
Just some thoughts…

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]]> By: jesse http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-337941 jesse Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:13:21 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-337941 I have my gps permissions set correctly and it still will not work. Any help would be appreciated. I have the 8330. I have my gps permissions set correctly and it still will not work. Any help would be appreciated. I have the 8330.

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]]> By: jim http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-337876 jim Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:00:13 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-337876 I was having problems with mine. It said, searching for satelites and did nothing else. I had to play with the application permissions to get the GPS to work on my curve. I did and it does!! I was having problems with mine. It said, searching for satelites and did nothing else. I had to play with the application permissions to get the GPS to work on my curve. I did and it does!!

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]]> By: Roland Bissell http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-337770 Roland Bissell Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:01:45 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-337770 Well I can tell you with certainty that the GPS may be working with Balckberry Maps on Verizon now but it does not work with third party applications. MyMileageGenie (which automates tracking your mileage for expoense reporting) uses the GPS to track distance traveled through out the day. Although I was hoping 4.5 would fix this, a client reported last evening that it only works when VZ Navigator is up and running. Verizon needs to fix this problem. Well I can tell you with certainty that the GPS may be working with Balckberry Maps on Verizon now but it does not work with third party applications. MyMileageGenie (which automates tracking your mileage for expoense reporting) uses the GPS to track distance traveled through out the day. Although I was hoping 4.5 would fix this, a client reported last evening that it only works when VZ Navigator is up and running. Verizon needs to fix this problem.

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]]> By: joemamma http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-337382 joemamma Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:55:54 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-337382 I just tried it on my 8830 running 4.5 ver. 77. It seemed to work just fine. Would be nice to have google maps work as well but I'll take this for now. It's better than nothing. I just tried it on my 8830 running 4.5 ver. 77. It seemed to work just fine. Would be nice to have google maps work as well but I’ll take this for now. It’s better than nothing.

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]]> By: MK http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-337200 MK Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:02:24 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-337200 GPS on my Storm works fine. Even gives me directions...not audible turn by turn but still, it's GPS and working great, actually. GPS on my Storm works fine. Even gives me directions…not audible turn by turn but still, it’s GPS and working great, actually.

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]]> By: DavidB http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-336106 DavidB Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:43:49 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-336106 @Crazy Sam: Google has you fooled with their "My Location" cell tower/wifi ap triangulation. No application besides VZNavigator or TeleNAV (corp custs only) has had GPS location access on ANY Blackberry until 4.5+ OS and whatever Verizon did on the PDE server back end (2 weeks ago for Storm, yesterday for 8x30 devices). Sorry. That's the facts. @Crazy Sam:
Google has you fooled with their “My Location” cell tower/wifi ap triangulation. No application besides VZNavigator or TeleNAV (corp custs only) has had GPS location access on ANY Blackberry until 4.5+ OS and whatever Verizon did on the PDE server back end (2 weeks ago for Storm, yesterday for 8×30 devices). Sorry. That’s the facts.

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]]> By: DavidB http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-336103 DavidB Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:34:16 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-336103 @Dave: Good luck with that. There is a class action about the 8830 GPS and it's been well over a year since filed and first actions aren't for another month or two. You have 30 days, take it back. I suspect you will find NO literature from Verizon saying phones have GPS any more. They have learned from the lawsuits. They just say "VZNavigator compatible (or capable)". You'll get nowhere in two years plus of a lawsuit over a $500 device, if it means so much to you either return the phone (you have no standing to claim you didn't know in time to return for a refund), or buy a BT GPS puck for $50-60. @Dave:
Good luck with that. There is a class action about the 8830 GPS and it’s been well over a year since filed and first actions aren’t for another month or two. You have 30 days, take it back.

I suspect you will find NO literature from Verizon saying phones have GPS any more. They have learned from the lawsuits. They just say “VZNavigator compatible (or capable)”. You’ll get nowhere in two years plus of a lawsuit over a $500 device, if it means so much to you either return the phone (you have no standing to claim you didn’t know in time to return for a refund), or buy a BT GPS puck for $50-60.

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]]> By: Dave http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-336096 Dave Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:05:29 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-336096 Verizon guy.... I've been told about Santa Claus and the Great Pumpkin too. I'm still waiting for them as well. Verizon guy….
I’ve been told about Santa Claus and the Great Pumpkin too. I’m still waiting for them as well.

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]]> By: tster http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-336003 tster Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:41:21 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-336003 Installed 4.5.0.77 on my VZW Curve today (used google to find the download) and the BB Map application now finds me using GPS. It works fine for me. Another new option I noticed was in the browser under the Go To feature there is now a search function. Installed 4.5.0.77 on my VZW Curve today (used google to find the download) and the BB Map application now finds me using GPS.

It works fine for me.

Another new option I noticed was in the browser under the Go To feature there is now a search function.

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]]> By: DavidB http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-335932 DavidB Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:03:32 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-335932 8830WE and OS 4.5.0.101. Verizon. BBMaps working flawlessly. Google Maps not so. 8830WE and OS 4.5.0.101. Verizon. BBMaps working flawlessly. Google Maps not so.

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]]> By: Will http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-335914 Will Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:12:46 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-335914 @nate "I think we all get the advantage of aGPS. You’re ignoring the big disadvantage of depending on a cellphone for your GPS, though." Agreed! Long live Garmin GPS, TomTom GPS, et al. @nate “I think we all get the advantage of aGPS. You’re ignoring the big disadvantage of depending on a cellphone for your GPS, though.”

Agreed! Long live Garmin GPS, TomTom GPS, et al.

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]]> By: jt http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-335895 jt Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:42:01 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-335895 It doesn't work on mine. I've got GPS enabled in settings and the latest phone/BB Maps software installed. Displays "Searching for satllites..." endlessly. It doesn’t work on mine. I’ve got GPS enabled in settings and the latest phone/BB Maps software installed. Displays “Searching for satllites…” endlessly.

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]]> By: Verizon Guy http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-335858 Verizon Guy Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:29:59 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-335858 @ Dave & Jon: Believe me, I feel your pain on the locked-down GPS. I have been told that standalone GPS will be unlocked on the Omnia with a future firmware update. @ Dave & Jon: Believe me, I feel your pain on the locked-down GPS. I have been told that standalone GPS will be unlocked on the Omnia with a future firmware update.

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]]> By: Dave http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-335834 Dave Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:48:01 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-335834 Are you aware of others like us? I'd think it's a legitimate complaint. I see a link with the same thing with the BlackBerry. Seems as if it's a company-wide deception. Would you care to communicate off-site about this? Are you aware of others like us? I’d think it’s a legitimate complaint. I see a link with the same thing with the BlackBerry. Seems as if it’s a company-wide deception. Would you care to communicate off-site about this?

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]]> By: KSAT http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-335819 KSAT Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:02:26 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-335819 NOWFS: Where can I get this stable release of 4.5.x.x for my 8830WE? I've been miffed that VZW hasn't released a 4.5 OS upgrade for these phones yet..unless they secretly have and I haven't heard about it yet. I suspect you are using another carriers OS version? Which on - I'm still a bit leary about trying that! NOWFS:

Where can I get this stable release of 4.5.x.x for my 8830WE? I’ve been miffed that VZW hasn’t released a 4.5 OS upgrade for these phones yet..unless they secretly have and I haven’t heard about it yet.
I suspect you are using another carriers OS version? Which on – I’m still a bit leary about trying that!

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]]> By: sam http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-335803 sam Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:43:41 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-335803 you might wanna talk to the lawyers in the case below (follow the link). i wonder if their suit had something to do with VZW unlcoking the GPS? http://www.cyberlaw.pro/docs/verizonbbcomplaint.pdf you might wanna talk to the lawyers in the case below (follow the link). i wonder if their suit had something to do with VZW unlcoking the GPS?

http://www.cyberlaw.pro/docs/verizonbbcomplaint.pdf

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]]> By: Jon http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/12/04/verizon-wireless-has-unlocked-the-gps-on-the-8330-curve-and-the-8130-pearl/comment-page-2/#comment-335645 Jon Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:44:59 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/?p=10710#comment-335645 I'd definitely be down for that. I bought an Omnia. I was excited because GPS was clearly a perk. and then I find out I'm going to have to pay 10 bucks a month?? Some would just say I should stop complaining and take a closer look, but I'm not a tech geek. How was I supposed to know? It's obviously dirty tactic on verizon's part. VZ Nav is not bad, but quite exorbitant. Where are my options?? I’d definitely be down for that. I bought an Omnia. I was excited because GPS was clearly a perk. and then I find out I’m going to have to pay 10 bucks a month?? Some would just say I should stop complaining and take a closer look, but I’m not a tech geek. How was I supposed to know? It’s obviously dirty tactic on verizon’s part. VZ Nav is not bad, but quite exorbitant. Where are my options??

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