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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft fails in blocking Ballmer&#8217;s testimony in &#8220;Vista Capable&#8221; lawsuit</title>
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		<title>By: maxPayne79</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/23/microsoft-fails-in-blocking-ballmers-testimony-in-vista-capable-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-328542</link>
		<dc:creator>maxPayne79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice picture of buddy. &quot;oh look, here comes the ice cream truck. yeeeey.&quot; lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice picture of buddy. &#8220;oh look, here comes the ice cream truck. yeeeey.&#8221; lol
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		<title>By: CDMAUser</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/23/microsoft-fails-in-blocking-ballmers-testimony-in-vista-capable-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-328359</link>
		<dc:creator>CDMAUser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Windows ME Second Edition :)

I look forward to Seven. Hopefully they&#039;ll start sending out Beta invited soon. Already received the Azure invite and a service code so hopefully that&#039;s a good sign.</description>
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<p>I look forward to Seven. Hopefully they&#8217;ll start sending out Beta invited soon. Already received the Azure invite and a service code so hopefully that&#8217;s a good sign.
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		<title>By: RVB</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/23/microsoft-fails-in-blocking-ballmers-testimony-in-vista-capable-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-328356</link>
		<dc:creator>RVB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys.. really obvious Photoshop work on the photograph :-)  But an interesting article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys.. really obvious Photoshop work on the photograph <img src='http://static.boygeniusreport.com/wp/2.8.4/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   But an interesting article!
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		<title>By: DANGERFIELD NEWBY</title>
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		<dc:creator>DANGERFIELD NEWBY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vista was a dog from day one.  Microsoft tried to force it down our throats knowing it was a piece of crap.  MS needs to just keep supporting XP until ready to release the real upgrade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vista was a dog from day one.  Microsoft tried to force it down our throats knowing it was a piece of crap.  MS needs to just keep supporting XP until ready to release the real upgrade.
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		<title>By: keymaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>keymaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 06:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now why the heck would they stick a (Vista Ready ) sticker if they knew all along it wasn&#039;t, Only the geniuses at microsoft would thought of that, same freggin thing with the Xbox 360 and they are so bright that they&#039;re still shipping units that they know that are ether broken or gonna fail within a few months, sometimes weeks, boy they sure have some loyal fanboys</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now why the heck would they stick a (Vista Ready ) sticker if they knew all along it wasn&#8217;t, Only the geniuses at microsoft would thought of that, same freggin thing with the Xbox 360 and they are so bright that they&#8217;re still shipping units that they know that are ether broken or gonna fail within a few months, sometimes weeks, boy they sure have some loyal fanboys
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		<title>By: CDMAUser</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/23/microsoft-fails-in-blocking-ballmers-testimony-in-vista-capable-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-328138</link>
		<dc:creator>CDMAUser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still upset that Intel and Microsoft screwed everyone with the 915 chipset and did not pursue the drivers needed for Aero. The card met every specification for this functionality and it turned into a big finger pointing game. I said screw it, dropped my XPS M140 for a XPS M1210 after complaining for two months. I hope the both get slapped with a nice lawsuit. When Vista droped the 915 chipset was still being sold mainstream and the fact that Aero actually worked in builds prior to RTM really upset me. I find it really funny that Beryl/Compiz could do even more visual effects than Aero and didn&#039;t need any new hardware. Punks....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still upset that Intel and Microsoft screwed everyone with the 915 chipset and did not pursue the drivers needed for Aero. The card met every specification for this functionality and it turned into a big finger pointing game. I said screw it, dropped my XPS M140 for a XPS M1210 after complaining for two months. I hope the both get slapped with a nice lawsuit. When Vista droped the 915 chipset was still being sold mainstream and the fact that Aero actually worked in builds prior to RTM really upset me. I find it really funny that Beryl/Compiz could do even more visual effects than Aero and didn&#8217;t need any new hardware. Punks&#8230;.
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		<title>By: Jimmy Top</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/23/microsoft-fails-in-blocking-ballmers-testimony-in-vista-capable-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-328055</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Top</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 00:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only idiots spent money to upgrade their hardware just to run Vista.  The rest of us stayed with XP.  No hardware upgrades necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only idiots spent money to upgrade their hardware just to run Vista.  The rest of us stayed with XP.  No hardware upgrades necessary.
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		<title>By: Malfoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malfoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fail to evolve like Apple I can understand. Evolve like google? Google holds whats essentially a monopoly(when ur every purchase has to be taken a look at by every countries trade commission, you&#039;re pretty much a monopoly) on search and paid ads.  Most of their products in one way or the other directly makes use of their core product to function and of those products how many have made it big? Gmail and google maps.  You can&#039;t count youtube cause they bought them after their video service was weak.  Gcheckout (which funny enough doesn&#039;t make use of their core competencies) has failed to give paypal the run they were hoping for.  

Google&#039;s business works because they placed themselves as gatekeepers in a time that everyone/everything is trying to find everyone/everything else.  This model will continue to work for a very long time until the day comes that eveyone knows where everything else is in which case Google might become irrelevant. 

Disclaimer: I love google&#039;s search. The rest of their products have yet to woo me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fail to evolve like Apple I can understand. Evolve like google? Google holds whats essentially a monopoly(when ur every purchase has to be taken a look at by every countries trade commission, you&#8217;re pretty much a monopoly) on search and paid ads.  Most of their products in one way or the other directly makes use of their core product to function and of those products how many have made it big? Gmail and google maps.  You can&#8217;t count youtube cause they bought them after their video service was weak.  Gcheckout (which funny enough doesn&#8217;t make use of their core competencies) has failed to give paypal the run they were hoping for.  </p>
<p>Google&#8217;s business works because they placed themselves as gatekeepers in a time that everyone/everything is trying to find everyone/everything else.  This model will continue to work for a very long time until the day comes that eveyone knows where everything else is in which case Google might become irrelevant. </p>
<p>Disclaimer: I love google&#8217;s search. The rest of their products have yet to woo me.
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
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		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;MS personified true tech power&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re not serious?  M$ dominated the market with dirty tricks and monopolistic business practices.  Their products were neither superior or innovative, they just forced everyone to use them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>MS personified true tech power</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re not serious?  M$ dominated the market with dirty tricks and monopolistic business practices.  Their products were neither superior or innovative, they just forced everyone to use them.
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		<title>By: Da Ereeser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da Ereeser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>April 1 to June 1 is 2 months isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>April 1 to June 1 is 2 months isn&#8217;t it?
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		<title>By: MiniMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiniMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MS always amazed me in many ways. Unlike IBM, its not a innovation-adverse monopoly that&#039;s alive purely because of the history (and piles of patents that cover nothing much but common sense and knowledge). It&#039;s not one-trick pony like Google, that never managed to diversified away from its original and only successful product. MS personified true tech power that many feared is going to take over the world.

They did so in personal PC OS, productivity and other markets. They did so in business OS, servers and other areas. They are the biggest, the best and the most productive in every software they develop. However, they quite miserably failed in net strategy. Given the 100s of millions thrown away in the web area, they simply don&#039;t have a single thinking person at the helm who can organize the business. 10 guys with a million can achieve better results than MS Live with 100Ms in backing. Same goes for consumer area. Zune (and the whole idea of it) is a joke. WM? It killed Palm and it could have been The OS, just like MS on PCs. They let it age, sit idle while competition outran them. Web? IE is the same thing.

I think that Bill&#039;s strength was in forecasting software needs. He did it perfectly, and MS prospered. Steve might be a shrewd fellow, but he looks insane on every picture. Also, I haven&#039;t seen anything decent that Steve came up with regards to the MS future. Under his command Vista (a great OS, BTW, the most advanced OS on the market) was plagued by delays, received continuous bad rap and less than desired acceptance despite its superior features.

My two cents? Fire Steve, fire MS Live (and whole internet strategy) senior management, fire consumer branch senior management (WM, Zune guys). None of them added a cent to MS value in recent memory. They all took good ideas and spent billions on losing market share. Spin those divisions as independent startup companies with MS financing. And MS will be a better and stronger company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MS always amazed me in many ways. Unlike IBM, its not a innovation-adverse monopoly that&#8217;s alive purely because of the history (and piles of patents that cover nothing much but common sense and knowledge). It&#8217;s not one-trick pony like Google, that never managed to diversified away from its original and only successful product. MS personified true tech power that many feared is going to take over the world.</p>
<p>They did so in personal PC OS, productivity and other markets. They did so in business OS, servers and other areas. They are the biggest, the best and the most productive in every software they develop. However, they quite miserably failed in net strategy. Given the 100s of millions thrown away in the web area, they simply don&#8217;t have a single thinking person at the helm who can organize the business. 10 guys with a million can achieve better results than MS Live with 100Ms in backing. Same goes for consumer area. Zune (and the whole idea of it) is a joke. WM? It killed Palm and it could have been The OS, just like MS on PCs. They let it age, sit idle while competition outran them. Web? IE is the same thing.</p>
<p>I think that Bill&#8217;s strength was in forecasting software needs. He did it perfectly, and MS prospered. Steve might be a shrewd fellow, but he looks insane on every picture. Also, I haven&#8217;t seen anything decent that Steve came up with regards to the MS future. Under his command Vista (a great OS, BTW, the most advanced OS on the market) was plagued by delays, received continuous bad rap and less than desired acceptance despite its superior features.</p>
<p>My two cents? Fire Steve, fire MS Live (and whole internet strategy) senior management, fire consumer branch senior management (WM, Zune guys). None of them added a cent to MS value in recent memory. They all took good ideas and spent billions on losing market share. Spin those divisions as independent startup companies with MS financing. And MS will be a better and stronger company.
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		<title>By: elcubanito</title>
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		<dc:creator>elcubanito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>abajo con windows</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abajo con windows
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		<title>By: elcubanito</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/23/microsoft-fails-in-blocking-ballmers-testimony-in-vista-capable-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-327932</link>
		<dc:creator>elcubanito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>linux is free and getting better</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>linux is free and getting better
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		<title>By: elcubanito</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/23/microsoft-fails-in-blocking-ballmers-testimony-in-vista-capable-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-327930</link>
		<dc:creator>elcubanito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is time for linux</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is time for linux
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/23/microsoft-fails-in-blocking-ballmers-testimony-in-vista-capable-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-327929</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to worry according to the &quot;Mayor of the BGR&quot; Mr. Like-To-Spin, says CEOs never lie! HAHAHA

You may know him as &quot;Likeabite&quot; the guy who attacks anyone on BGR that disagrees with him. He hates all that is Apple, loves all that is Zune, BB, Windows Mobile, and VZW! Oh, don&#039;t dare mention WiFi and VZW in the same sentence.

He says CEOs never lie and no one should ever listen to a blogger, journalist, or truth teller over a CEO. Users lie, engineers lie, techies lie, but NEVER CEOs. If you believe Like-To-Spin, we can be sure that Mr. Ballmer had absolutely no idea that the Vista sticker program was a sham. It was his staff maybe, and they just NEVER told him! HAHAHA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to worry according to the &#8220;Mayor of the BGR&#8221; Mr. Like-To-Spin, says CEOs never lie! HAHAHA</p>
<p>You may know him as &#8220;Likeabite&#8221; the guy who attacks anyone on BGR that disagrees with him. He hates all that is Apple, loves all that is Zune, BB, Windows Mobile, and VZW! Oh, don&#8217;t dare mention WiFi and VZW in the same sentence.</p>
<p>He says CEOs never lie and no one should ever listen to a blogger, journalist, or truth teller over a CEO. Users lie, engineers lie, techies lie, but NEVER CEOs. If you believe Like-To-Spin, we can be sure that Mr. Ballmer had absolutely no idea that the Vista sticker program was a sham. It was his staff maybe, and they just NEVER told him! HAHAHA
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		<title>By: b.N</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/23/microsoft-fails-in-blocking-ballmers-testimony-in-vista-capable-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-327928</link>
		<dc:creator>b.N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed gquaglia.

nothing more to add to your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed gquaglia.</p>
<p>nothing more to add to your post.
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/23/microsoft-fails-in-blocking-ballmers-testimony-in-vista-capable-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-327919</link>
		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Microsoft has failed to evolve like Google and Apple. Newer thinking companies will be the doom of MS.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well said.  If fact the only thing keeping M$ afloat is their market lock in from years of monopolistic practices.  Absent that, M$ would dry up and blow away like some many other companies that sat on their hands while others innovated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Microsoft has failed to evolve like Google and Apple. Newer thinking companies will be the doom of MS.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well said.  If fact the only thing keeping M$ afloat is their market lock in from years of monopolistic practices.  Absent that, M$ would dry up and blow away like some many other companies that sat on their hands while others innovated.
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/23/microsoft-fails-in-blocking-ballmers-testimony-in-vista-capable-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-327917</link>
		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M$ deceitful??  No way!

/sarcasm

M$ has made their millions off deceit, treachery and underhandedness.  Why would this surprise anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M$ deceitful??  No way!</p>
<p>/sarcasm</p>
<p>M$ has made their millions off deceit, treachery and underhandedness.  Why would this surprise anyone.
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		<title>By: PedroTheGoat</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/23/microsoft-fails-in-blocking-ballmers-testimony-in-vista-capable-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-327914</link>
		<dc:creator>PedroTheGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neato. I wonder if there ever will be an end to Microsoft. I&#039;m not a big MS hater, but it is kinda nice to see them slipping slightly over the past few years after decades of market supremecy. 

Microsoft has failed to evolve like Google and Apple. Newer thinking companies will be the doom of MS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neato. I wonder if there ever will be an end to Microsoft. I&#8217;m not a big MS hater, but it is kinda nice to see them slipping slightly over the past few years after decades of market supremecy. </p>
<p>Microsoft has failed to evolve like Google and Apple. Newer thinking companies will be the doom of MS.
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