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	<title>Comments on: T-Mobile admits to losing confidential data for 17 million customers</title>
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		<title>By: John Franks</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Franks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These data breaches and thefts are due to a lagging business culture.  I found some fresh and original thinking from the author of “IT Wars” - http://www.businessforum.com/DScott_02.html   - I urge every business person and IT person, management or staff, to get hold of a copy of &quot;I.T. Wars:  Managing the Business-Technology Weave in the New Millennium.&quot;  It has an excellent chapter on security, and how to scale security for any organization, any budget.  It also has a plan template with all considerations.  Our CEO has read this book.  Our project managers are on their second reading.  Our vendors are required to read it (they can borrow our copies if they don&#039;t want to purchase it).  Any agencies that wish to partner with us:  We ask that they read it.  Do yourself a favor and read this book – BEFORE you suffer a breach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These data breaches and thefts are due to a lagging business culture.  I found some fresh and original thinking from the author of “IT Wars” &#8211; <a href="http://www.businessforum.com/DScott_02.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessforum.com/DScott_02.html</a>   &#8211; I urge every business person and IT person, management or staff, to get hold of a copy of &#8220;I.T. Wars:  Managing the Business-Technology Weave in the New Millennium.&#8221;  It has an excellent chapter on security, and how to scale security for any organization, any budget.  It also has a plan template with all considerations.  Our CEO has read this book.  Our project managers are on their second reading.  Our vendors are required to read it (they can borrow our copies if they don&#8217;t want to purchase it).  Any agencies that wish to partner with us:  We ask that they read it.  Do yourself a favor and read this book – BEFORE you suffer a breach.
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		<title>By: Crunch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ tiredofbs: Hah, yea, exactly. That goes to their taste in entertainment. &quot;The Hoff&quot; is the shiznit over there.

@Jimmy: Count them in as well. And the cliche about them not taking more than one shower a month IS true.

Crunch Advice: Take the puke bag from the plane if you plan on getting into a cab for a ride to your air-condition-less hotel. You may need it.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ tiredofbs: Hah, yea, exactly. That goes to their taste in entertainment. &#8220;The Hoff&#8221; is the shiznit over there.</p>
<p>@Jimmy: Count them in as well. And the cliche about them not taking more than one shower a month IS true.</p>
<p>Crunch Advice: Take the puke bag from the plane if you plan on getting into a cab for a ride to your air-condition-less hotel. You may need it.</p>
<p>Now back to your regularly scheduled programming&#8230;
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Crunch

dont you mean the french?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Crunch</p>
<p>dont you mean the french?
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		<title>By: likeabite</title>
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		<dc:creator>likeabite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Germans are cocky by nature...not on like a Hitler level but they do have a very ethnocentric aura about them. Temporary Mobile just sucks and this just serves to prove that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Germans are cocky by nature&#8230;not on like a Hitler level but they do have a very ethnocentric aura about them. Temporary Mobile just sucks and this just serves to prove that.
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		<title>By: tiredofbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredofbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of how Germans feel about Americans, if it wasn&#039;t for them, David Hasselhoff would have probably offed himself years ago. Let them be the dumping ground for his crap lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of how Germans feel about Americans, if it wasn&#8217;t for them, David Hasselhoff would have probably offed himself years ago. Let them be the dumping ground for his crap lol.
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		<title>By: justinhub2003</title>
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		<dc:creator>justinhub2003</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would gladly take my carrier tmo being referred to as communist  when every other carrier in america are facist dictators. at least in theory communism is for the people while you can say the same the others. 

about the info leak, doesn&#039;t matter who you are and what company . info can get stolen, in fact my uncle received at letter from US MARINES saying there info was stolen from a lap top in a persons home and should be aware of fraud and that was only a year ago when he received the letter but was out of the marines for twelve years. it was a pretty large scale leak. 
 as far as the info leaked though I don&#039;t see one mention od social security numbers so pretty much the info leaked was stud you could find in a phone book. I would say its not a good thing it happened but it could have been a lot worse like the marines leaked that had  social security numbers mothers maiden names and birthdates</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would gladly take my carrier tmo being referred to as communist  when every other carrier in america are facist dictators. at least in theory communism is for the people while you can say the same the others. </p>
<p>about the info leak, doesn&#8217;t matter who you are and what company . info can get stolen, in fact my uncle received at letter from US MARINES saying there info was stolen from a lap top in a persons home and should be aware of fraud and that was only a year ago when he received the letter but was out of the marines for twelve years. it was a pretty large scale leak.<br />
 as far as the info leaked though I don&#8217;t see one mention od social security numbers so pretty much the info leaked was stud you could find in a phone book. I would say its not a good thing it happened but it could have been a lot worse like the marines leaked that had  social security numbers mothers maiden names and birthdates
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		<title>By: mpG4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>mpG4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sounds like that is a little too little and little too late for 17 million of T-Mobile’s customers&quot;

Jeez, Kelly, all that&#039;s missing is a declaration of how much BGR loves AT&amp;T....  oh wait, there it is, in Crunch&#039;s post, along with some interesting anti-European sentiment.

This kind of stuff happens all the time.  I am NOT saying it&#039;s okay for companies to have such poor security and infrastructure that this would ever happen, but it does, and it has been and is being addressed. 

Sincerely,

A Realistic Person Living In 2008 Who Has Been On The Wrong End Of Identity Theft But Didn&#039;t Convert To Being a Mennonite (you can find the definition on the web) And Still Continues To Use Online Banking Among Other Various &quot;Scary&quot; Technologies

Oh yeah, might want to check the following:

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/28315/118/

http://www.numbrx.net/2006/08/30/hackers-accessed-consumer-data-in-att-online-store/

http://breachblog.com/2008/06/08/att.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sounds like that is a little too little and little too late for 17 million of T-Mobile’s customers&#8221;</p>
<p>Jeez, Kelly, all that&#8217;s missing is a declaration of how much BGR loves AT&amp;T&#8230;.  oh wait, there it is, in Crunch&#8217;s post, along with some interesting anti-European sentiment.</p>
<p>This kind of stuff happens all the time.  I am NOT saying it&#8217;s okay for companies to have such poor security and infrastructure that this would ever happen, but it does, and it has been and is being addressed. </p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>A Realistic Person Living In 2008 Who Has Been On The Wrong End Of Identity Theft But Didn&#8217;t Convert To Being a Mennonite (you can find the definition on the web) And Still Continues To Use Online Banking Among Other Various &#8220;Scary&#8221; Technologies</p>
<p>Oh yeah, might want to check the following:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/28315/118/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/28315/118/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.numbrx.net/2006/08/30/hackers-accessed-consumer-data-in-att-online-store/" rel="nofollow">http://www.numbrx.net/2006/08/30/hackers-accessed-consumer-data-in-att-online-store/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://breachblog.com/2008/06/08/att.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://breachblog.com/2008/06/08/att.aspx</a>
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		<title>By: Crunch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Germans, by nature, are arrogant people. This is nothing new. Their, what I call, false sense of superiority, continues to thrive.

They look down on us Americans, and a number of other countries, while, at the same time, buying up American culture, as well as americanizing their whole country.

The hypocrisy is palpable. Again! And again.

Sincerely,

A proud AT&amp;T customer of 10 years</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Germans, by nature, are arrogant people. This is nothing new. Their, what I call, false sense of superiority, continues to thrive.</p>
<p>They look down on us Americans, and a number of other countries, while, at the same time, buying up American culture, as well as americanizing their whole country.</p>
<p>The hypocrisy is palpable. Again! And again.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>A proud AT&amp;T customer of 10 years
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		<title>By: Kelly Hodgkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Hodgkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DavidB
I think it just the German customers. all that I have read about it has focused on Germany and the German division. No mention of any other countries being involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DavidB<br />
I think it just the German customers. all that I have read about it has focused on Germany and the German division. No mention of any other countries being involved.
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		<title>By: b.N</title>
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		<dc:creator>b.N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So THAT&#039;S how the Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses have been able to keep tabs on me..

Sneaky sneaky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So THAT&#8217;S how the Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses have been able to keep tabs on me..</p>
<p>Sneaky sneaky.
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		<title>By: Jerry Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sit is scary. Also this COMI Company thinks they are above the law. Thier statement is arrogant and cocky.Thats why i dont like or use t-comi your mobile wireless provider...here hitler!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sit is scary. Also this COMI Company thinks they are above the law. Thier statement is arrogant and cocky.Thats why i dont like or use t-comi your mobile wireless provider&#8230;here hitler!!!!
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>German customers? Or worldwide?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>German customers? Or worldwide?
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		<title>By: blueyes</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/10/05/t-mobile-admits-to-losing-confidential-data-for-17-million-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-291617</link>
		<dc:creator>blueyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh this really holds my faith in them now :/  My old cell phone company just got bought out by them and so far we have had nothing but problems and their customer service sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh this really holds my faith in them now :/  My old cell phone company just got bought out by them and so far we have had nothing but problems and their customer service sucks.
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		<title>By: SkyDog</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/10/05/t-mobile-admits-to-losing-confidential-data-for-17-million-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-291522</link>
		<dc:creator>SkyDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 09:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just think how many times this type of thing happens with many other businesses, even if it&#039;s on a smaller scale.  One person&#039;s info lost  is one too many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just think how many times this type of thing happens with many other businesses, even if it&#8217;s on a smaller scale.  One person&#8217;s info lost  is one too many.
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