BlackBerry Storm video proves RIM hates confidentiality, or they just want to leak crap
“You’re invited to a secret presentation on the upcoming BlackBerry Storm. But just remember, we at RIM don’t care about company secrets any more, so you Italians in the audience should feel free to blatantly hold your camera phone above your head and film the entire thing.” Seriously, RIM, is this what you’re going to be like from now on? We all know that you have a touchscreen device in the 9500 and 9530 Storm, but you just have to make life difficult for all of us and make a half-assed attempt at keeping it secret, don’t you? We’re speaking from the BGR team here, but when so much stuff about a phone leaks before there is a public press release, you have to start thinking the words “controlled” and “leak”. Anyway, the latest in a shamefully long parade of leaks is a video presentation given to an Italian audience. It’s pretty nicely done and gives great insight into how OS 4.7 will work on a touchscreen device. Hell, it made us want one.
@boyGeorge: because he gets paid to express his opinions. You are just bitching for free. And I already have an iPhone among other high end devices with Verizon and AT&T. I don’t need a bribe to defend someones right to express their opinions on their own effin website.
I love BGR. He rated the Bold and iPhone as equals, so clearly he isn’t a RIM hater and when the Storm comes out and he changes his tune and makes it his device of choice this site will be filled with apple fans crying about his apple bashing
Can’t wait for this device!
Ok, let’s see in a couple weeks when the device is launched. If I’m wrong, I’ll admit it. I think the touch-click way of using the phone is terrible and it’s awkward in many different scenarios, I also think that there will tons of build issues and it will have the same if not more of the issues the Bold has.
@matrix who I will soon ban the shit out of
If it weren’t for me and the online community buddy, RIM would have lost a ton more sales. Imagine if no one had heard about the Bold, Javelin, Kickstart, or Storm until RIM was ready to announce them. Hundreds of thousands of people would have jumped ship. We gave them hope that their favorite manufacturer wasn’t laying down and waiting to die.
@BG
Yet your site bashes them in this post for leaking the info that allows you both to sustain a business.
Fact is if you don’t get leaks then you don’t have a blog. If they don’t give leaks no one knows what they have coming, and it hurts their business.
Matrix was definitely a little harsh there..lol. I do equate your site with reading the New York Daily News for my sports info. They are usually biased and have an agenda. That’s also what makes them fun to read though. I will say that the BG haters make the comments section worth reading so don’t go banning anyone just yet.
Wow it sure seems like people come to your site to bash you BG. Do you live off this crap. Come on you have to know that the Storm is gonna be an awesome phone. You just like to stir up shit.
Ban me if you must. You are correct about the info you have leaked. The problem i have is all the trash you talk about Verizon and CDMA phones. If it was the other way around and you were doing the same thing to AT&T, Iphone, GSM, i would be pissed too. Ok, let me put it another way, you can tell in your words and in the other BGR staff members’ words that you are all excited when a GSM phone is leaked but just the opposite whan you leak CDMA phones. Then you say the Storm sucks based on software that’s in testing? Did you do this to the IPhone? Do you see what i and many others are saying, do you?
You are just straight kissing his ass. Did you even read what I wrote? It wouldn’t make sense to even consider BG’s opinion to be anywhere near the truth. He gets paid alright, right from Steve Jobs.
BG, don’t be so arrogant. RIM is a huge corporation, and you are who??? RIM doesn’t need you for shit, so please don’t post anything about them anymore, because guaranteed it will be negative anyway.
ah… someone pass the popcorn
Neat video. I think everyone’s getting tired of the little leaks here and there. VZW’s little page dedicated to the Storm isn’t much at all.
Whoever posted that it was a Vodafone presentation has a point – it wasn’t a RIM leak, it was a Voda leak, but BG’s point stands. RIM needs to, in this order:
1.) Announce the Storm formally
2.) Get the Bold to the point where AT&T approves it, post-haste
3.) Get the 8220 out the door ASAP
4.) Get their act together as far as OS
5.) Get their act together as far as marketing
@matrix
The problem is that CDMA is very limited and up until very very recently there hasn’t been anything good to say. We’re supposed to praise Verizon for the ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING UI it put on practically 99% of their phones? I love Verizon and I can honestly say they have the best voice and data network in the country. But what good is that if the phones are some of the worst? That’s beginning to change now and that’s a great thing. I’ve said in the past if Verizon doesn’t screw up their open handset initiative, that would be a major win for them and good for everyone.
@ the BG. Honestly, just by the way you guys write anything about RIM you can tell your just a bunch of Apple loving fanboys. Your blogs are so biased maybe your just prejudice against canadians idk or maybe Apple really does put some dough in your wallet but there’s always some sarcasm or some hostility behind the posts. And I think Vodaphone and Verizon don’t give a fuck if and when Rim announces it, they want the word out now. But all in all I’m sick of seeing every bb post littered with your snide remarks all of you are stuck up bitches. I hope your iphones give you cancer
Who says RIM is trying to keep this secret? Just because RIM hasn’t made an official announcement doesn’t mean they are trying to keep anything secret.
RIM has allowed Verizon & Vodaphone to use official images to set up public websites devoted to collecting email addresses of interested parties. RIM is allowing both companies to send emails and postcards about the Storm with pictures of the Storm.
RIM isn’t trying to keep anything secret. I don’t get the writers rant about RIM & secrecy. Who cars that RIM is waiting for their dev conference to make their announcement. Where is it written that a device must remain a deep secret until the official press release day?
I will agree with BGR that at launch there will likely be some build issues that will need to be solved in patches. The same occurred with the iPhone and the iPhone 3G initial launch of the devices. I don’t expect the Storm to be any different. That isn’t to say this will be a bad device just because I expect some hiccups at launch. Is the iPhone a bad device because of its initial problems? I don’t think so.
I don’t like that on Verizon users won’t be able to be on the web and get a call. Probably my biggest complaint about CDMA even though there are a lot more positives about the Verizon network.
I’ve heard (rumor) the touch screen will allow input even if its not clicked for those that choose to use it another way – like an iPhone. I guess you can set the hover and tap interval on the device so the screen doesn’t need to be depressed. If this rumor is true it would take away BGRs biggest complaint about the device.
I actually don’t like the iPhone touch screen and think the click-able screen will allow for easier one hand typing. I’m holding back on calling this device the greatest or a pos until I can use one for a while.
@ BG
What’s undeniable, though, is that at least in the US, CDMA rules. The CDMA carriers collectively have the best coverage, fastest data, and most reliable networks available here in the States. EvDO, even Rev. A, isn’t as fast as HSDPA 7.2, but how many places in the US can you get reliable, good UMTS signal? I get strong EvDO Rev. A signal in Toledo, OH. Can’t say the same about AT&T’s HSDPA service.
Why is it EvilHomer feels he must write multiple paragraph rants in response to every person that even slightly goes against BGR? Let BGR speak for himself. He does fine writin responses. Stop trying to insert yourself into comments not directed at you. Get a life.
Hey Y’all,
As often as BG can get under my skin with his extravagent remarks, this site would be dull and boring without them. So let’s all take a deep breath and cool the hostility.
Just my two cents.
- CB
“BLACKBERRY for LIFE”
@Ervel
Agree man… if someone said you have to pick a network for guaranteed voice coverage and guaranteed 3G data coverage it would be Verizon. But what phone am I using on it? That’s the issue… It’s worth the trade off for slightly worse coverage and a slightly worse network if you’re rockin’ the latest hotness. At least it is for me…
@Anonymous
That would definitely be a big plus if you could just use the display as a regular capacitive touch screen with no click.
@ BG
I kind of agree. I’m currently on AT&T, so I guess I kind of prove your point there.
I jumped ship from Big Red because of three things: locked out GPS, gimped Bluetooth, and, yes, exactly what you’re talking about – old, dull phones with crappy UI’s. But I’m getting a tad antsy as I putt along with my EDGE connection while the VZW subscriber next to me is rockin’ out his EvDO pipe.
The iphone on verizon network? WOW!!! I guess if you can’t beat’em join them ha!
@Evilhomer
WOW and I just thought you and I had some words! LOL There must must be 2 FULL MOONS tonight!….
Have to admit the phone looks pretty damn slick! As for “anyone can make a video look good” In the same breath lets all remember the Iphone3g commercial where the Iphone demo moved at the speed of a direct fiber line connected to it. LOL. Obviously the reason this thread has caused so much attention is the darn Storm actually looked impressive. Soon we shall see how slick it really is. Till then I am ordering a pizza and see how many rounds this can go! lol…
ilikephonesthatwork Said:
@Evilhomer
WOW and I just thought you and I had some words! LOL There must must be 2 FULL MOONS tonight!….
Have to admit the phone looks pretty damn slick! As for “anyone can make a video look good” In the same breath lets all remember the Iphone3g commercial where the Iphone demo moved at the speed of a direct fiber line connected to it. LOL. Obviously the reason this thread has caused so much attention is the darn Storm actually looked impressive. Soon we shall see how slick it really is. Till then I am ordering a pizza and see how many rounds this can go! lol…
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Yeah, I agree. It is like the Steve Jobs keynote when introducing the first iPhone. It looked better then than it actually ran at launch. Although I will say the the addition of 3G that it is pretty close now. At least for those is AT&T 3G coverage area. I think the same is at work here with the Storm. I think the Storm, like the iPhone, has great potential. I just don’t expect it to run like the demo’s right out of the gate and experience some growing pains like the iPhone. The key will be how quickly RIM pushes out updates and fixes. If they follow Apples example, it could be okay and like Apple lovers, RIM fans should be able to put up with the minor annoyances. That is if the touch screen works well. There is nothing worse than an unresponsive touch screen that you have to tap again and again to make work.
@Anonymous loser: I love it when someone who is up just as late as I am, and posting as much as anyone else, tell ME to get a life.
If you had one, you wouldn’t be wasting it posting at me. For the record, I’m not speaking behalf of BG. If I choose to defend a statement by him then that’s my choice. I’m sure that if he feels I’m speaking out of line on his behalf, he’ll be the first to let me know. So why don’t you STFU and mind YOUR own beeswax? I’ll post as I like until you have the administrative rights on this forum to stop me. Until then, talk to the hand… it’s the one with the middle finger pointed straight up at cha.
@ BG
Well being a Verizon subscriber i can see where your coming from when you say that Verizon has dull phones and you may be right. But the way i see it is this, whats the point of going out and buying the latest new hottness phone if you cant even get decent reception? Where i live (Northeast New Jersey) the reception is second to none, sure some of my friends phones are better looking, but when it comes down to it my phone has never dropped a call, except one time like 4 years ago. Meanwhile my friends with their new hottness phone can’t make a call to save their lives. so yea there maybe some gripes with CDMA but that reliability is worth the less than stellar phone selection, especially if your going to pay $200 and up for a phone.
lmao..I love Storm posts on BGR…I literally read every comment so I can laugh my ass off. There are many thing’s I’d love to respond to but first I’d just like to say thanks to BG for acknowledging that Verizon does have the best network…so if there is any debate and some idiots want to come on here and argue it that has been put to rest, not only by BG but by every other nationwide test and survey.
Now BG I must say that we all notice the snideness and negativity in your RIM and sometimes Verizon posts. I’m sure when the iPhone was first coming out and you were receiving all those leaks you did not say “fuck Apple release the damn phone already and cut out all this bullshit.” You contradicted yourself by saying that the Storm’s announcement is the same as the Bold’s because that led to many disappointments. However, the Storm has not even been announced by RIM yet, just acknowledged by Verizon and Vodafone, and even that has only been in the last month or so. This is exactly why it is not the same because they did not announce it, have three thousand delays and changed launch dates and disappointments. Even you haven’t set a firm launch date for this device yet, but you did set multiple ones for the Bold that were never met and now we still don’t know if it is coming out soon even though every other carrier aside from AT&T already has it. Rim is going to officially announce it exactly a month from when many believe it will be launched, which is October 9th and November 7th respectively. If they had announced it and not released it then you could bash them but only people who read blogs like this new the existence of this device, without any real announcement and even then we just knew it was coming and nothing more. You are making it seem like it is the Bold and it has been seen all around the world but on a carrier in the US. That is not the case and you know it, which is exactly why many people are criticizing you for it. I love this post, don’t get me wrong but just like how you admitted that Verizon does have the best network, just admit that you love Apple and the Iphone and AT&T and everything’ll be perfect.
Evilhomer you do defend BG on everything pro Apple and you have every right to do so but like BG does with Apple the kneepads do start wearing thin after a lot of uses you know. I do like your objective viewpoint in your last post though, that the phone does have potential like the iPhone and we just have to wait and see.
The video is great and just builds anticipation for what those awaiting this phone want to have in our hands.
P.S. The comment about banning Matrix was funny as HELL LMAO
I will have to say that I think the BG can be a bit biased but in many ways I agree with him. I am a long time Verizon guy and love the ability to make calls and never drop them being in Massachusetts where service gets choppy on other phone.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK the IPHONE and AT&T. If it weren’t for them causing a stir in mobile tech, Verizon and Rim wouldn’t have been as proactive in changing their approach. The marketplace has become more competitive and end users have raised the bar in expectations. Verizon is now trying to attain better phones, relinquishing UI to the phones, and becoming more competitive to new phone technology.
Can we admit also that if Verizon hadn’t turned down the iphone, that they would have dominated the U.S. market hands down? You can’t unlock CDMA phones like GSM phones and they would have gotten much higher actual subscriptions than AT&T did with the first Iphone. It was a big blunder. I’ll be just as excited as I am for the storm when the next iphone sporting 4g hits Verizon.
I would take an iPhone on VZW any day as long as they leave the hardware and software alone. I think that was at least part of the issue with why they didn’t get it in the first place. I won’t debate that since I’ve heard the “it’s Apples/VZW’s fault, but I will agree they should have picked it up. Sure would hate leaving it behind though when I traveled to Europe….
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Likabite: I don’t defend every BG report that is pro Apple. I do not believe that the iPhone is for everyone. However, I do defend the iPhone it’s self when it is attacked in a post that hasn’t a GD thing to do with this article. I do defend BG when he’s referred to as a “RIM hater and AT&T lover” simply because I know better. People used to say he was a WM hater back when most of the BG articles were about RIM.
I don’t know you that well, but I would defend you if someone came here and attacked your reputation if I knew if was false. I’d speak up for you if I thought you were a good guy and deserved a bit more respect from some of these goobers. It doesn’t mean that I don’t think you can’t defend yourself, it would just mean as a fellow tech enthusiast, I’d have your back.
I think BG has done enough good for us tech junkies over the years on all sides of the carrier/devices fences that he deserves a little more credit and a little more respect than he’s getting. That doesn’t make me an ass kisser, it makes me a friend. (At least as much of a friend as you can be on the internet)