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	<title>Comments on: AT&amp;T adds two new international Apple iPhone data plans</title>
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		<title>By: Canuck</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/08/26/att-adds-two-new-international-apple-iphone-data-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-268656</link>
		<dc:creator>Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify - The International BB plan DOES include web browsing and not just email.  I&#039;ve been using that plan for over a year and half mostly in Canada and on occasion in Europe and have never had any extra data charges.  While traveling in Europe I used TeleNav exclusively to navigate where I was going ( about 4 weeks in total time) and it cost me nothing extra.

I&#039;ve talked to 2 reps at AT&amp;T who have said I could just use that same plan for the iPhone so I&#039;m going to test that starting next month and I&#039;ll see what happens...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify &#8211; The International BB plan DOES include web browsing and not just email.  I&#8217;ve been using that plan for over a year and half mostly in Canada and on occasion in Europe and have never had any extra data charges.  While traveling in Europe I used TeleNav exclusively to navigate where I was going ( about 4 weeks in total time) and it cost me nothing extra.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve talked to 2 reps at AT&amp;T who have said I could just use that same plan for the iPhone so I&#8217;m going to test that starting next month and I&#8217;ll see what happens&#8230;
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		<title>By: Mefisto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mefisto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Buckdutter for pointing out that the $69.99 is only for email and that the charges come from the networks on which AT&amp;T subscribers roam not AT&amp;T themselves. Of course AT&amp;T reciprocates and in the absence of competition from other type of wireless plans (e.g. Wifi) prices will stay high.

Has anyone actually bothered to read what those unlimited Blackberry &quot;data&quot; plans offer before arguing that AT&amp;T charges too much? More to the point: is anyone familiar with data roaming charges imposed by European carriers to EU-residents on roaming within the EU? The AT&amp;T plan looks pretty cheap in comparison.

Also the $19.99 email on T-mobile is for Blackberry enterprise accounts that cost $69.99 on top of voice service. Nothing comes for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Buckdutter for pointing out that the $69.99 is only for email and that the charges come from the networks on which AT&amp;T subscribers roam not AT&amp;T themselves. Of course AT&amp;T reciprocates and in the absence of competition from other type of wireless plans (e.g. Wifi) prices will stay high.</p>
<p>Has anyone actually bothered to read what those unlimited Blackberry &#8220;data&#8221; plans offer before arguing that AT&amp;T charges too much? More to the point: is anyone familiar with data roaming charges imposed by European carriers to EU-residents on roaming within the EU? The AT&amp;T plan looks pretty cheap in comparison.</p>
<p>Also the $19.99 email on T-mobile is for Blackberry enterprise accounts that cost $69.99 on top of voice service. Nothing comes for free.
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		<title>By: man_dem</title>
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		<dc:creator>man_dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think rogers and AT&amp;T are talking behind the scenes..

this price is rogers-esque</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think rogers and AT&amp;T are talking behind the scenes..</p>
<p>this price is rogers-esque
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		<title>By: MadMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m overseas it&#039;s either a.) for work or b.) I&#039;m on vacation.

If it&#039;s a. I couldn&#039;t care less how much it costs because I&#039;m not paying the bill.

If it&#039;s b. I couldn&#039;t care less about e-mail. I&#039;d just get a pay-as-you-go phone for voice, and have my Garmin Nuvi for GPS. I&#039;d use the Hotel&#039;s/Resort&#039;s internet to check my mail. because, heck - I&#039;m on vacation. I&#039;d send my one email letting everyone know to use my GrandCentral account which will forward to my overseas phone.

That and AT&amp;T is getting charged a lot by those carriers - I hardly think they make any *real* percentage as profit from those pricing plans. Maybe, MAYBE 3% overhead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m overseas it&#8217;s either a.) for work or b.) I&#8217;m on vacation.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s a. I couldn&#8217;t care less how much it costs because I&#8217;m not paying the bill.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s b. I couldn&#8217;t care less about e-mail. I&#8217;d just get a pay-as-you-go phone for voice, and have my Garmin Nuvi for GPS. I&#8217;d use the Hotel&#8217;s/Resort&#8217;s internet to check my mail. because, heck &#8211; I&#8217;m on vacation. I&#8217;d send my one email letting everyone know to use my GrandCentral account which will forward to my overseas phone.</p>
<p>That and AT&amp;T is getting charged a lot by those carriers &#8211; I hardly think they make any *real* percentage as profit from those pricing plans. Maybe, MAYBE 3% overhead.
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		<title>By: buckdutter</title>
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		<dc:creator>buckdutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the blackberry plans are for blackberry email only.  People seem to forget that foreign carriers charge hefty sums to roam on their networks.  If my memory is correct, blackberry gets away with it through the agreements that have with carriers around the world.  Given foreign carriers charge per byte, if you use the 200 mb you are probably saving yourself 400-500 dollars at least.  But then again the best thing to do for the time being is to unlock the phone and pay 3-4 dollars a day for prepaid data access if available.  People are giving AT&amp;T too much credit if they think they have that much control over international data rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the blackberry plans are for blackberry email only.  People seem to forget that foreign carriers charge hefty sums to roam on their networks.  If my memory is correct, blackberry gets away with it through the agreements that have with carriers around the world.  Given foreign carriers charge per byte, if you use the 200 mb you are probably saving yourself 400-500 dollars at least.  But then again the best thing to do for the time being is to unlock the phone and pay 3-4 dollars a day for prepaid data access if available.  People are giving AT&amp;T too much credit if they think they have that much control over international data rates.
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		<title>By: jimbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, that&#039;s right. That&#039;s why I got an unlocked iPhone with T-Mobile... $19.99 a month add-on for unlimited international e-mail. Seems AT&amp;T has the decimal in the wrong spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, that&#8217;s right. That&#8217;s why I got an unlocked iPhone with T-Mobile&#8230; $19.99 a month add-on for unlimited international e-mail. Seems AT&amp;T has the decimal in the wrong spot.
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		<title>By: vandy1997</title>
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		<dc:creator>vandy1997</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AT&amp;T must have been smoking iCrack to charge these rates!! They must be getting tips from Rogers Wireless as to how to best rip off its customers! You&#039;re probably better off buying a legally unlocked iPhone and getting a SIM card in the country that you are visiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT&amp;T must have been smoking iCrack to charge these rates!! They must be getting tips from Rogers Wireless as to how to best rip off its customers! You&#8217;re probably better off buying a legally unlocked iPhone and getting a SIM card in the country that you are visiting.
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		<title>By: Galvatron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Galvatron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats bad it&#039;s actuallly cheaper to unlock your phone at that point</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats bad it&#8217;s actuallly cheaper to unlock your phone at that point
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		<title>By: cwcanty</title>
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		<dc:creator>cwcanty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and everyone wants to bitch about verizon charging 10 bucks a month for GPS or 2 bucks a month for visual voicemail.

Att is has got to be kidding with this plan.  Talk about taking advantage....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and everyone wants to bitch about verizon charging 10 bucks a month for GPS or 2 bucks a month for visual voicemail.</p>
<p>Att is has got to be kidding with this plan.  Talk about taking advantage&#8230;.
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		<title>By: drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The previous int apple plans did not require contracts of 1 year, one would assume that will remain the same with these new soc codes however they MAY change their policies seeing as how much of it changed with the iphone 3G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The previous int apple plans did not require contracts of 1 year, one would assume that will remain the same with these new soc codes however they MAY change their policies seeing as how much of it changed with the iphone 3G
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		<title>By: Sam Dweck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Dweck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell, for that price, you could pick up an iPhone in your country of choice and pay an early termination fee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, for that price, you could pick up an iPhone in your country of choice and pay an early termination fee.
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The international data plans for blackberry through Verizon require no contract and is $69.99 a month, I&#039;d hope this doesn&#039;t require a contract!</description>
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