Comments on: Muxtape Takes Fire from the RIAA

By: backbeat

backbeat — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:32:45 +0000

^That explains alot. When/If you ever venture into mass-appeal (as in ‘critical mass’ appeal) of the buying public, your opinion will change. There have always been those with just enough drive and talent to barely survive by nibbling off the edges by doing the independent thing, but they ultimately realize how limited their talents are to self-promote, self-distribute, write, record, engineer, etc really are compared to what they believe their worth is. They finally either give up and join a working band with proper representation and management or they go back to flipping burgers. The internet cannot replicate all the connections and deals that have to be made in order to get the right exposure and opportunities.

By: Galvatron

Galvatron — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:20:06 +0000

punk rap pop I don’t thinks so Im’ mor of an anlternative, metal, elctronica,techno guy.

By: backbeat

backbeat — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:55:34 +0000

Tell it the industry that’s obviously kicking your ass. Otherwise, your sole purpose for existence (and whining) would no longer be.

Quite telling that your punk-rap is your sole frame of reference, where bling is cheap and talent nonexistent, punk. If you only had a clue.

By: Galvatron

Galvatron — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:51:03 +0000

LOL you still don’t get it you? tech has goot soa advance an avlable an with blogsand cd burer srampant you don’t need promoters anyore or recoed companies they can do all that themselves and for realtivly ceap. th reason for for the record labels existing is gone. the the artist nolonger need them cause they(the artists) can do it all by themselves.

By: backbeat

backbeat — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:28:19 +0000

Just as you said (or attempted to say and then and stumbled over), there is no free lunch. Management, roadies, session players, promoters all take their cut in some form, whether by fee or % of the gross. You simply want to bitch about the label’s part of this because you can’t get your shit for free via internet when they enforce their legal rights. The same argument you stumble over when you consider your right to patent/trademark your own uniquely useful invention (creation). Can’t have it both ways, simpleton. Just as you’re experiencing, life’s a bitch when you try to.

By: Galvatron

Galvatron — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:52:44 +0000

No it wouldn’t actually Atrest try selling teier woks all the time in this day and age the CD file whatever shoul be`a marketing tool not a product. MC cris for example lets you Download his albmuns For free off his web pages, gives out CD’s For Free at his performance and signs em. in this way he spreads around his street cred an generates more interests from potential an as a result gets more bookings were he makes his money.

Same thing with Zeale Who really belives Music should be shared Freely he even ecourages you to DL his stuff Burn It and share it with your friends> Somthing all artist should be doing these days. Actores have to screen test for casting crews to sample thier talent.

My sister whos a Chellist Makes morre coin on booking gigs at weddings Reception Parties An makes More Giving music lessons.
Getting crap for free Who dosn’t in this day and age? BG Dose it Deliberately to get more traffic to his site thats good avertising.

Companies Do it as marketing or as an incentive to entice you tou use their products and services or get your name out an create a demand. If you Studied marketing and business an economics(wich I Did in High School Business and marketing 101) You would know this an look at the bigger picture.

EG US bank offers me $75 in groceries to sign up for a checking account.

And there is no such thing as a free lunch. there Is always a catch. your just to Retard impusive to insult me and Negative and short sided to see it that way.

By: backbeat

backbeat — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:08:13 +0000

^ An “independent band” has never been heard from, idiot. Which is why my statement was about “the vulture capitalists backing the indie _labels_”. If it was the artist you gave a rat’s ass about, you’d acknowledge that the RIAA is no better nor no worse than the so-called indie labels.

All you care about, from your assorted posts, is getting shit for free to which you have no right, simply because you can. If it was your protected name and investment interests involved, your ‘opinion’ may change from “who cares?” to preserving your creative rights.

By: Galvatron

Galvatron — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:55:28 +0000

Retard they have no no venture capitiolists backing them. that’s what an independent band is.

your right maby not of that stuff can be patented But in can be sold an reqires som creativity and skill to make. So it IS an art form and you can copyright digital logos as trademarks.

The only creativity you have demonstrated is how to be a web troll.

any your defending the RIAA?! Seriously WTF are you smoking or drinking? cause I want some.

By: dand

dand — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:49:03 +0000

I still think backbeat is doin Rove & Bainwol..

By: backbeat

backbeat — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:29:50 +0000

^ “I used to code appz do graphic design photoshop an craft animated gifs and designed an silversmith jewlery. So Yes I have created stuff.”

Just nothing useful and unique that would remotely qualify as IP. Just ask the patent attorney you can’t afford.

If you think the vulture capitalists backing the indie labels are looking out for the session musicians any better than the experienced labels, you’re obviously growing your own. Get out of a conversation you obviously know nothing about.

“My great uncle on my dads side Used to ba an assistant police cheif in Pheonix an even had a line in the movie Gauntlet. “open fire””

Just can’t stand on your own in any unique and useful way, eh idiot? Poor thang.

By: Galvatron

Galvatron — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:13:06 +0000

@ backbeat: actually I used to code appz do graphic design photoshop an craft animated gifs and designed an silversmith jewlery. So Yes I have created stuff. An if you buy into the **AA’s and labels BS saying ” we are looking ut for the artists” your a bigger idiot than thoght.

the **AA and the lables and studios are looking out for nobody but themselves. I also know a few independents who go touring as well they don’t do the labels and don’t do itunes cause apple ripps off the artists from what they said they make more money touring an doing concerts , gigs at clubs, and parties.

@ Detest No i don’t think they weren’t joking

my recent ly deseces grandfather who died earlier this year is a Former govoner of AZ.
And ran agianst Mcain for the AZ US sentor seat atthe time.

My great uncle on my dads side Used to ba an assistant police cheif in Pheonix an even had a line in the movie Gauntlet. “open fire”

By: MadMike

MadMike — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:36:22 +0000

Mark B.:
Politicians are just as worthless as lawyers. They will not help you.

And for the record, I like Galvatron’s comments. He should be a politician. Hell, he can’t be any worse than what we already have.

By: MadMike

MadMike — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:31:52 +0000

Luckily there are alternatives to the RIAA-based music companies. Ones that don’t rip off the artist and the consumer. We can so, “Fuck the RIAA” without harming the non-megalomillonaires (pun intended) because they have the option of leaving the RIAA backed corporations for a better record label. Heck, they can distribute their music on iTunes and through websites and never need a record label. The world is smaller and the small guys have the technology to do things that only the record companies could do back in the day. Heck, all they need is a sound dampened room and a Mac and they can distribute professional quality music tracks on iTunes for almost nothing. The RIAA is dead – they just don’t realize it yet.

By: backbeat

backbeat — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:37:57 +0000

^ By “fuck[ing] the RIAA”, you also fuck the recording artists, most of which are session musicians. Most session players are _NOT_ megamillionaires.

By: David

David — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:27:57 +0000

We’re evolving into a digital and global economy. Shouldn’t business of old be redefined to capitalize on this emerging (and prevalent) trend? Standards hardly remain standard. Fuck the RIAA.

Well said Marc.

By: Mark B.

Mark B. — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:26:19 +0000

These old moguls who have and are doing in every contact they come in touch with have to go!
The RIAA, CRB and Sound Exchange are nothing more than leeches on the backs of artists, both major and Indie as well as on all the music patrons of the world!

In a society like America where we like to believe we have the right to our freedoms we shouldn’t have to put up with an unruly service that has been outgrown by it’s society!

These folks are practicing corporate facism, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that some of the label heads and officers are members of the secret society known as the “Fourth Reich,”

They want the monopoly of everything as their passed unruly illegal business practices have made them lazy fat cats who live in sub-lime luxury as they are well schooled in the art of professional leeching off other people’s talents and pocket books!

This is America we shouldn’t have to live with and put up with organizations that have become obsolete stumbling blocks that destroy rather than construct freedoms and choices like: the music we listen to, what instruments we use to listen to it with and the media we choose whether it be Internet Radio, Internet Video, Terrestrial Radio and TV or whether we listen to Indie artists, or label artists that should be our choice rights and freedoms as American citizens!
Not the decision of RIAA, CRB or Sound Exchange of their affiliates around the world!

We’ve got to shut them down for us to have any peace in these choices, write your congressmen and senators tell them what they have to do to get your vote!

Mark B.

By: backbeat

backbeat — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:02:04 +0000

@dand: Sensitive? No. Accurate eye for valueless bullshit? Absolutely. Thanks for the confirmation.

By: dand

dand — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:56:41 +0000

@ backbeat

Wow so sensitive. You may feel this response is flawed as well, but Mitch Bainwol & Karl Rove are looking for some hot 3 way action…

By: backbeat

backbeat — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:43:15 +0000

@dand: I’ll take those boring inside scoops and helpful details provided by BGR&Co, rather than having to be constantly ‘entertained’ like a 2-yr old.

But to correct your fundamentally flawed response, Galvatron has never created anything which is unique and useful with respect to IP, which defines the kneejerk responses by those ripping off others. Grow up, kiddies.

By: dand

dand — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:05:44 +0000

@ backbeat
I only disagree with your point of Galvatrons usefulness. said Galvatron provides always intriguing, insightful, befuddling commentary. It is unique in the sense that nothing remotely coherent comes of it, and is therefore entertaining to me. Galvatron, the sideshow on the BGR show. Useful indeed.

By: backbeat

backbeat — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:55:30 +0000

Galvatron: You only have the view on Intellectual Property that you do because you’ve never created anything which is unique and is useful. You’re a digital clown on internet forums, in your totality. Pity that.

By: MadMike

MadMike — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:35:10 +0000

I dislike the RIAA. Should they ever come after me, it would probably end very badly. I am not the nicest of people and can lose my temper easily.

By: Dtest54

Dtest54 — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:17:23 +0000

Gal your friends must be comedians, although even you could probably do better then W.

By: Galvatron

Galvatron — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:56:51 +0000

hell if I ran I’d do it but im dirt poor. Scarry thing is my buddies say i should be in politics.

By: dand

dand — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:07:11 +0000

Mitch Bainwol is f*cking Karl Rove. Really.

By: Rich

Rich — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:53:13 +0000

Also…

Sadly, as with the energy issues this country faces, there is no one with the balls, drive, or vision to do anything about it in Washington DC.

By: Rich

Rich — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:50:30 +0000

The RIAA and the MPAA are both four dirty four letter words. Both organizations should be outlawed, their lobbyists should be banned from Washington, DCMA struck down, and copyright law reset to provide fair, not draconian protections.

The media industries complain that their revenues are down and can only point to piracy as a cause. Instead, they should be looking at fact they are releasing c**p that no one wants to pay $22/cd for.

By: Galvatron

Galvatron — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:37:34 +0000

AMEN to that thats how it should be.

let good ol suply and demand determine your price noth lazy an greedy recod ececs who nolonger have a purpose.

By: hibachi

hibachi — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:32:21 +0000

they can wipeout every god damn music site on the internet, i still won’t buy anything with RIAA marked on it. CD sales don’t support the artists.

i support artists by going to their shows, i’ll be damned if i ever give the fucking RIAA a penny.

long live radiohead. put these fuckers out of business!!!!!!

By: Galvatron

Galvatron — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:23:26 +0000

all the **AA dos is perpetuate failing business models I also think the patent system needs to go as well. the whole point of it was to establis a TEMPorary monoply. NOT a perment one toecourage competition and inovation instead we have this hug cartel of monoplistic companies in various indudtries software hardware ect.services. a diversified economy is a healthy one.