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	<title>Comments on: Apple not happy with Rogers over iPhone plan pricing?</title>
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		<title>By: Ed Hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-3/#comment-395069</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post. Most blogs or not very informative. At least I learnt somthing with yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. Most blogs or not very informative. At least I learnt somthing with yours.
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		<title>By: MikeyD</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-3/#comment-220456</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an Australian I thought I&#039;d put my 2c into this.

Telstra is similar to Rogers where it charges through the roof for what it calls a &#039;premium service&#039;. Their iPhone plan starts on a $35 plan with an upfront payment and only 5Mb worth of data. 5 megabytes. To have a Gb you need to pay over $100.

Optus (which is the telco that was mentioned previously) is doing so well for competition here, although the incumbent is yet to follow as they still have a lot of people signing up.

At the end of the day, if a corporation has no customers, they will modify their rates. It all boils down to user knowledge and education on what a fair go really is.

M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Australian I thought I&#8217;d put my 2c into this.</p>
<p>Telstra is similar to Rogers where it charges through the roof for what it calls a &#8216;premium service&#8217;. Their iPhone plan starts on a $35 plan with an upfront payment and only 5Mb worth of data. 5 megabytes. To have a Gb you need to pay over $100.</p>
<p>Optus (which is the telco that was mentioned previously) is doing so well for competition here, although the incumbent is yet to follow as they still have a lot of people signing up.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, if a corporation has no customers, they will modify their rates. It all boils down to user knowledge and education on what a fair go really is.</p>
<p>M
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		<title>By: Lucio</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-3/#comment-218467</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lucio, you dont get it.  the Iphone is a gprs/gsm phone and not a cdma.  It wouldnt work on a Bell/Telus network....

That is why the Gov&#039;t should never have Rogers buy Fido...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lucio, you dont get it.  the Iphone is a gprs/gsm phone and not a cdma.  It wouldnt work on a Bell/Telus network&#8230;.</p>
<p>That is why the Gov&#8217;t should never have Rogers buy Fido&#8230;
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		<title>By: leroy</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-3/#comment-218169</link>
		<dc:creator>leroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should contract the phones out to other carriers as well. Monopoly is what is keeping that crazy price afloat. They are charging it because they are exclusive.
If they are in an exclusive contract (looks like they are) then Apple should limit thier shipments (looks like they are) and everyone should lay off buying them until the deal changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should contract the phones out to other carriers as well. Monopoly is what is keeping that crazy price afloat. They are charging it because they are exclusive.<br />
If they are in an exclusive contract (looks like they are) then Apple should limit thier shipments (looks like they are) and everyone should lay off buying them until the deal changes.
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		<title>By: FRogers</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-3/#comment-217552</link>
		<dc:creator>FRogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rumor seems to be true on the iPhone shipment to Canada. 

A family member in charge of the cell phone section at Rogers has been told that there will be a total of 2,000 iPhones for the entirety of Canada. 

Hence, not all stores will be carrying them or very few, on the release date. 

FRogers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rumor seems to be true on the iPhone shipment to Canada. </p>
<p>A family member in charge of the cell phone section at Rogers has been told that there will be a total of 2,000 iPhones for the entirety of Canada. </p>
<p>Hence, not all stores will be carrying them or very few, on the release date. </p>
<p>FRogers
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		<title>By: Boo Hoo</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-2/#comment-217424</link>
		<dc:creator>Boo Hoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boo hoo...NOT! Get over yourselves. You don&#039;t need an iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boo hoo&#8230;NOT! Get over yourselves. You don&#8217;t need an iPhone.
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		<title>By: Gary Flame</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-2/#comment-217420</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Flame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I like the parody ROGERS logo on this page, however it may be more effective if it said ROBBERS instead of ROBERS.

I don&#039;t think Uncle Ted offers lounge wear at any of the retail outlets.

Gary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I like the parody ROGERS logo on this page, however it may be more effective if it said ROBBERS instead of ROBERS.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Uncle Ted offers lounge wear at any of the retail outlets.</p>
<p>Gary
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		<title>By: Roger Hater</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-2/#comment-217417</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Hater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOU&#039;RE HIRED BY ROGERS TO SPEW THIS GARBAGE - THANKS FOR TRYING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU&#8217;RE HIRED BY ROGERS TO SPEW THIS GARBAGE &#8211; THANKS FOR TRYING.
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-2/#comment-217406</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Baby Daddy

You are wasting space in the posts. keep your dumb comments to yourself and save this for people using the information to make informed decisions on the iphone or Rogers services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Baby Daddy</p>
<p>You are wasting space in the posts. keep your dumb comments to yourself and save this for people using the information to make informed decisions on the iphone or Rogers services.
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rogers was viewing the iPhone as their golden ARPU child, marketing decided that no matter what the plans are like people will pay it. They saw this as their key to overtaking TELUS in ARPU launching their Q3 and Q4. If you really want to make Rogers know how you feel, and plan on canceling - don&#039;t. Just reduce your plan to the lowest plan possible and keep it for the remainder of 2008. Sure it will cost you about $120 over the course of the remainder of the year to keep it, but its worth making your voice heard in the most powerful way possible - Rogers stock price.

If half of the petitioners did this, lets assume their current monthly bills are about $60, if they reduce it to $20. Thats a monthly loss for Rogers of about $40. 25, 000 (half the petitioners) x $40 = $1, 000, 000. Not only will they lose $6, 000, 000 over the course of the next 6 months but a large decrease in their subscribers ARPU will be impacted.

Plus if everyone cancels in Dec/Jan, their churn will look brutal at a key time.

Is my thinking too simple? But with most of these things, people just like to bitch but won&#039;t do whats necessary to exact any change, so any plans like these (hairbrained or otherwise) wouldn&#039;t get off the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rogers was viewing the iPhone as their golden ARPU child, marketing decided that no matter what the plans are like people will pay it. They saw this as their key to overtaking TELUS in ARPU launching their Q3 and Q4. If you really want to make Rogers know how you feel, and plan on canceling &#8211; don&#8217;t. Just reduce your plan to the lowest plan possible and keep it for the remainder of 2008. Sure it will cost you about $120 over the course of the remainder of the year to keep it, but its worth making your voice heard in the most powerful way possible &#8211; Rogers stock price.</p>
<p>If half of the petitioners did this, lets assume their current monthly bills are about $60, if they reduce it to $20. Thats a monthly loss for Rogers of about $40. 25, 000 (half the petitioners) x $40 = $1, 000, 000. Not only will they lose $6, 000, 000 over the course of the next 6 months but a large decrease in their subscribers ARPU will be impacted.</p>
<p>Plus if everyone cancels in Dec/Jan, their churn will look brutal at a key time.</p>
<p>Is my thinking too simple? But with most of these things, people just like to bitch but won&#8217;t do whats necessary to exact any change, so any plans like these (hairbrained or otherwise) wouldn&#8217;t get off the ground.
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IF this is true, one would hope that reduced data rates would be applied for ALL Rogers devices.  Data plans for iPhone 3G are essentially identical to those for Blackberry aren&#039;t they?
http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/07/03/007674/#more-7674</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF this is true, one would hope that reduced data rates would be applied for ALL Rogers devices.  Data plans for iPhone 3G are essentially identical to those for Blackberry aren&#8217;t they?<br />
<a href="http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/07/03/007674/#more-7674" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/07/03/007674/#more-7674</a>
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		<title>By: Mark Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Apple decided to change its business model by letting the carriers to subsidize the cost of iPhones bought by consumers, it lost its clout over how much carriers charged consumers. Sure, Apple may be less than pleased with Rogers but consumers are going to, hopefully, let Rogers know by not coming out in droves to buy the new iPhone. Here&#039;s my take:
http://tinyurl.com/5cgwan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Apple decided to change its business model by letting the carriers to subsidize the cost of iPhones bought by consumers, it lost its clout over how much carriers charged consumers. Sure, Apple may be less than pleased with Rogers but consumers are going to, hopefully, let Rogers know by not coming out in droves to buy the new iPhone. Here&#8217;s my take:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/5cgwan" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5cgwan</a>
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		<title>By: Frederic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frederic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CDMA Evdo Rev. A iPhone petition ? :)</description>
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		<title>By: Ducatis2r</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-2/#comment-217100</link>
		<dc:creator>Ducatis2r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can confirm that the store I deal with will be receiving less than 30 iphones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can confirm that the store I deal with will be receiving less than 30 iphones.
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-2/#comment-217093</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, but no thanks Rogers.  I&#039;ll keep my unlocked V1 iPhone and signup to one of the new (actually remotely affordable) small data plans to use it.   You can keep your 3G iPhone, and your completely asinine 3 year term requirement as well.

The bad press and consumer revolt looks good on you, Rogers...it&#039;s about time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, but no thanks Rogers.  I&#8217;ll keep my unlocked V1 iPhone and signup to one of the new (actually remotely affordable) small data plans to use it.   You can keep your 3G iPhone, and your completely asinine 3 year term requirement as well.</p>
<p>The bad press and consumer revolt looks good on you, Rogers&#8230;it&#8217;s about time.
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		<title>By: lalala</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-2/#comment-217057</link>
		<dc:creator>lalala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop complaining about the prices. People are going to buy it no matter what the price is. Think about it this way if you are the only GSM carrier why would you lower your prices at all. I know if I ran the company I wouldn&#039;t. For the people that are going to get an unlocked iPhone form the states guess were your money is going to go for the service. Thats right ROGERS. So, they are going to get there money anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop complaining about the prices. People are going to buy it no matter what the price is. Think about it this way if you are the only GSM carrier why would you lower your prices at all. I know if I ran the company I wouldn&#8217;t. For the people that are going to get an unlocked iPhone form the states guess were your money is going to go for the service. Thats right ROGERS. So, they are going to get there money anyways.
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		<title>By: Michael Linehan</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-2/#comment-217039</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Linehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I will go out on a limb here and point out that while these plans may seem expensive, they are in line not only with what other carriers are offering...&quot;
Bull. Certainly not carriers in other countries. Rwanda is waaay cheaper than Canada.

&quot;But also very reasonable compared to our other plans for Data devices.&quot;
Bull.  Equals &quot;very reasonable compared to all the other ways Rogers gouges customers&quot;.

&quot;They provide consumers at every level the features and data they need to get the most out of the iPhone.&quot;
Bull. If that were so, why is there more of a stink happening in Canada than in any other country?  These rates are way out of line.

&quot;Additionally, it is not really fair or accurate to compare cellular pricing in Canada with that of other countries. Canada happens to be one of the lowest per capita users of cellphones in the world...&quot;
Indeed ---- Due to being rogered for all these years. Our tiny number of monopolistic, greedy telecoms has crippled Canada&#039;s mobile industry and crippled Canadian business.

&quot;...and combined with our large geographic area and the fact that we strive to provide coast-to-coast network coverage to over 90% of the population...&quot;
Bull. Australia doesn&#039;t charge rates like this.

Like when telephone companies used to charge $50/hour for long distance, before the days of competition. Bring the competition!!!

Insane greed. Pure and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I will go out on a limb here and point out that while these plans may seem expensive, they are in line not only with what other carriers are offering&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Bull. Certainly not carriers in other countries. Rwanda is waaay cheaper than Canada.</p>
<p>&#8220;But also very reasonable compared to our other plans for Data devices.&#8221;<br />
Bull.  Equals &#8220;very reasonable compared to all the other ways Rogers gouges customers&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;They provide consumers at every level the features and data they need to get the most out of the iPhone.&#8221;<br />
Bull. If that were so, why is there more of a stink happening in Canada than in any other country?  These rates are way out of line.</p>
<p>&#8220;Additionally, it is not really fair or accurate to compare cellular pricing in Canada with that of other countries. Canada happens to be one of the lowest per capita users of cellphones in the world&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Indeed &#8212;- Due to being rogered for all these years. Our tiny number of monopolistic, greedy telecoms has crippled Canada&#8217;s mobile industry and crippled Canadian business.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;and combined with our large geographic area and the fact that we strive to provide coast-to-coast network coverage to over 90% of the population&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Bull. Australia doesn&#8217;t charge rates like this.</p>
<p>Like when telephone companies used to charge $50/hour for long distance, before the days of competition. Bring the competition!!!</p>
<p>Insane greed. Pure and simple.
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		<title>By: Future BB owner</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-2/#comment-217020</link>
		<dc:creator>Future BB owner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many Rogers shareholders signed the petition ? I would think none as the more money rogers makes the more in their pocket</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many Rogers shareholders signed the petition ? I would think none as the more money rogers makes the more in their pocket
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		<title>By: Baby Daddy</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-2/#comment-216980</link>
		<dc:creator>Baby Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My baby mama&#039;s having another baby. I don&#039;t want it so I have to choose between a iPhone and a abortion cause I only have money to pay for one. I choose the iPhone! I live in Alabama too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My baby mama&#8217;s having another baby. I don&#8217;t want it so I have to choose between a iPhone and a abortion cause I only have money to pay for one. I choose the iPhone! I live in Alabama too.
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		<title>By: mrp</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-2/#comment-216979</link>
		<dc:creator>mrp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lauren

No, the company&#039;s profitabiltiy determine shareholder interest and therefor share price. Investors don&#039;t buy the stock because they like the logo. 

Ted Rogers does own the company (do your research if the fact that the company is called rogers isn&#039;t enough for you)  The kind of shares that you I can be are not the same as the one&#039;s that Ted owns.

Rogers made 10 Billion dollars in 2007, 53% of which came from wireless business.

here is the annual report for 2007
http://library.corporate-ir.net/library/80/800/80028/items/282421/AR07_03_07_08.pdf

Crying that rogers is poor and can&#039;t afford to give decent prices to canadians doesn&#039;t cut it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lauren</p>
<p>No, the company&#8217;s profitabiltiy determine shareholder interest and therefor share price. Investors don&#8217;t buy the stock because they like the logo. </p>
<p>Ted Rogers does own the company (do your research if the fact that the company is called rogers isn&#8217;t enough for you)  The kind of shares that you I can be are not the same as the one&#8217;s that Ted owns.</p>
<p>Rogers made 10 Billion dollars in 2007, 53% of which came from wireless business.</p>
<p>here is the annual report for 2007<br />
<a href="http://library.corporate-ir.net/library/80/800/80028/items/282421/AR07_03_07_08.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://library.corporate-ir.net/library/80/800/80028/items/282421/AR07_03_07_08.pdf</a></p>
<p>Crying that rogers is poor and can&#8217;t afford to give decent prices to canadians doesn&#8217;t cut it.
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		<title>By: The Outside</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-2/#comment-216974</link>
		<dc:creator>The Outside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jimmy Top

are you from alabama? but anyway charge every penny they&#039;re willing to pay? us americans got it GREAT when it comes to plans. we envy european phones but they envy all the money we keep compared to them. so no its not the american way... its the european/canadian way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jimmy Top</p>
<p>are you from alabama? but anyway charge every penny they&#8217;re willing to pay? us americans got it GREAT when it comes to plans. we envy european phones but they envy all the money we keep compared to them. so no its not the american way&#8230; its the european/canadian way
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-2/#comment-216958</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happened in Sweden.</description>
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		<title>By: lc31c</title>
		<link>http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/06/apple-not-happy-with-rogers-over-iphone-plan-pricing/comment-page-2/#comment-216956</link>
		<dc:creator>lc31c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From rogers.com: &quot;While the iPhone 3G Voice and Data Packages allow you to use this device to its fullest and offer savings over separate voice and data plans, THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO YOU. Other pricing options are available.&quot;

&quot;If you are an existing customer, you may keep your existing voice service plan and add a separate data plan&quot;

I talked to rogers. Im getting my current plan with 400 min, text, etc
plus 10-15$ data and i get iphone easy. All ill pay for total of this is 50$/ month

Rogers said u can go as low as 30$/month and get iphone. Everyone is mad at rogers&#039; pricing b/c they cant read what they said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From rogers.com: &#8220;While the iPhone 3G Voice and Data Packages allow you to use this device to its fullest and offer savings over separate voice and data plans, THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO YOU. Other pricing options are available.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If you are an existing customer, you may keep your existing voice service plan and add a separate data plan&#8221;</p>
<p>I talked to rogers. Im getting my current plan with 400 min, text, etc<br />
plus 10-15$ data and i get iphone easy. All ill pay for total of this is 50$/ month</p>
<p>Rogers said u can go as low as 30$/month and get iphone. Everyone is mad at rogers&#8217; pricing b/c they cant read what they said.
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		<title>By: rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 23:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This idea is just a rumor.  Apple does send iPhones to all the rogers stores seperately the day before launch,  They send a mass quantity to Rogers, then rogers sends them out to there stores.  And that process alone, considering the thousands of stores rogers has nation wide, could take anywhere up to two weeks.  Rogers will have recieved there iPhone stock before they even released the pricing plans.  

Also, apple doesn&#039;t have a mafia style control over shipping companies.  they can&#039;t redirect our stock to Europe to try and get Rogers to change plans, then just tell the ship to turn around. This style of pressure, no matter how its looked at, would end up costing apple thousands of extra dollars.

Face it guys this is just a lame rumor.  If apple is going to do anything it will be to wait out Rogers first release and see how it goes.  This phone isn&#039;t even launched yet.  We don&#039;t actually know if their sales are going to be effected largely by the petition.  I mean lets be honest, the only reason those 40,000 people took the time to sign it was because at the end of the day they REALLY want an iPhone.  How many of them will ACTUALLY hold out? 

IF sales are minimal, and they can directly relate it to the public out cry for data costs THEN they will pressure Rogers before they send their next stock shipment.  Lets not forget Apple signed a contract with Rogers to supply these Phones, the can&#039;t just cut Rogers off.  

I know everyone loves apple and in most peoples eyes they can do no wrong, but realistically Rogers probably proposed these prices to apple before they signed the contract.

Don&#039;t worry to much though, Telus and bell now have unlimited Data plans, and its offered on every other smart phone rogers carries appart from the iPhone (since that is the only one rogers has exclusively).  As soon as the initial hype dies down, Rogers will offer unlimited data to stay competitive with their entire product line.  Remember, Rogers can&#039;t survive off of just one phone, no matter HOW popular it is!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This idea is just a rumor.  Apple does send iPhones to all the rogers stores seperately the day before launch,  They send a mass quantity to Rogers, then rogers sends them out to there stores.  And that process alone, considering the thousands of stores rogers has nation wide, could take anywhere up to two weeks.  Rogers will have recieved there iPhone stock before they even released the pricing plans.  </p>
<p>Also, apple doesn&#8217;t have a mafia style control over shipping companies.  they can&#8217;t redirect our stock to Europe to try and get Rogers to change plans, then just tell the ship to turn around. This style of pressure, no matter how its looked at, would end up costing apple thousands of extra dollars.</p>
<p>Face it guys this is just a lame rumor.  If apple is going to do anything it will be to wait out Rogers first release and see how it goes.  This phone isn&#8217;t even launched yet.  We don&#8217;t actually know if their sales are going to be effected largely by the petition.  I mean lets be honest, the only reason those 40,000 people took the time to sign it was because at the end of the day they REALLY want an iPhone.  How many of them will ACTUALLY hold out? </p>
<p>IF sales are minimal, and they can directly relate it to the public out cry for data costs THEN they will pressure Rogers before they send their next stock shipment.  Lets not forget Apple signed a contract with Rogers to supply these Phones, the can&#8217;t just cut Rogers off.  </p>
<p>I know everyone loves apple and in most peoples eyes they can do no wrong, but realistically Rogers probably proposed these prices to apple before they signed the contract.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry to much though, Telus and bell now have unlimited Data plans, and its offered on every other smart phone rogers carries appart from the iPhone (since that is the only one rogers has exclusively).  As soon as the initial hype dies down, Rogers will offer unlimited data to stay competitive with their entire product line.  Remember, Rogers can&#8217;t survive off of just one phone, no matter HOW popular it is!!
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		<title>By: BackBacon Crusader</title>
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		<dc:creator>BackBacon Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 23:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the comment about Bell and TELUS...they&#039;ve offered unlimited data plans for their smartphones since 2007. It&#039;s the ongoing propaganda machine about the miserable state of Canadian wireless that manages to obfuscate this little fact from widespread dissemination. It&#039;s only Rogers that DOESN&#039;T offer an unlimited data plan in Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the comment about Bell and TELUS&#8230;they&#8217;ve offered unlimited data plans for their smartphones since 2007. It&#8217;s the ongoing propaganda machine about the miserable state of Canadian wireless that manages to obfuscate this little fact from widespread dissemination. It&#8217;s only Rogers that DOESN&#8217;T offer an unlimited data plan in Canada.
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		<title>By: RyaN</title>
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		<dc:creator>RyaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 23:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jimmy Top

Fcuk you, dipsh!t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jimmy Top</p>
<p>Fcuk you, dipsh!t
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		<title>By: Jimmy Top</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Top</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 23:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurray to Rogers!  Fight those Apple slime, don&#039;t let them strong arm you.  Charge your consumers every penny they are willing to pay, it&#039;s the American way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurray to Rogers!  Fight those Apple slime, don&#8217;t let them strong arm you.  Charge your consumers every penny they are willing to pay, it&#8217;s the American way!
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		<title>By: Larren MacGrewethon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larren MacGrewethon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 23:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mrp

Last time I looked, share prices did not dictate a company&#039;s real world profitability.

Just because the shareholders have money, doesn&#039;t mean the company is profitable. Ted may be the CEO of the company, but that does not mean he owns it - the majority shareholder do. Plus, his money is HIS money, not Rogers&#039;. Also, that article did not specify whether *only* his Rogers stock increased, or whether his whole portfolio appreciated.

Not to say Rogers isn&#039;t profitable.... just pointing out the error of your assumption. IE. if I owned Rogers stock, I&#039;d be rich too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mrp</p>
<p>Last time I looked, share prices did not dictate a company&#8217;s real world profitability.</p>
<p>Just because the shareholders have money, doesn&#8217;t mean the company is profitable. Ted may be the CEO of the company, but that does not mean he owns it &#8211; the majority shareholder do. Plus, his money is HIS money, not Rogers&#8217;. Also, that article did not specify whether *only* his Rogers stock increased, or whether his whole portfolio appreciated.</p>
<p>Not to say Rogers isn&#8217;t profitable&#8230;. just pointing out the error of your assumption. IE. if I owned Rogers stock, I&#8217;d be rich too.
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		<title>By: Future BB owner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Future BB owner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FINALLY... someone with a voice literally telling Rogers that they are treating their customers like S***.  Robbers will probably turn a blind eye to this as they always do and not listen to anybody including customers.

Maybe they should take their slogan &quot;... our customers are important and we listen... &quot; and just jot it.

I am thinking on getting the bold from them but seriously reconsidering loking myself for 3 years with this company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FINALLY&#8230; someone with a voice literally telling Rogers that they are treating their customers like S***.  Robbers will probably turn a blind eye to this as they always do and not listen to anybody including customers.</p>
<p>Maybe they should take their slogan &#8220;&#8230; our customers are important and we listen&#8230; &#8221; and just jot it.</p>
<p>I am thinking on getting the bold from them but seriously reconsidering loking myself for 3 years with this company.
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		<title>By: JT iPhone Wannabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT iPhone Wannabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry dude.

I don&#039;t believe this one.

Rogers has probably agreed to sell X amount of iPhones in Canada.  Apple has to agree to provide them with X amount.  Rogers could sue Apple for a breech of contract, supplying Y amount of phones.

Unless we Canuck&#039;s vote with our wallet, and choose not to buy this from Rogers nothing is going to change.  Really interesting the rates from Bell &amp; Telus.  They both suck equally, but I would have to lean towards Bell for my monies worth.

Why would the government interfere with Rogers ?  The more Rogers charges, the more tax they get.  Kind of like biting the hand that feeds.

I would like to hope that Jesus Jobs can help us.  

Don&#039;t bank on it though.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry dude.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe this one.</p>
<p>Rogers has probably agreed to sell X amount of iPhones in Canada.  Apple has to agree to provide them with X amount.  Rogers could sue Apple for a breech of contract, supplying Y amount of phones.</p>
<p>Unless we Canuck&#8217;s vote with our wallet, and choose not to buy this from Rogers nothing is going to change.  Really interesting the rates from Bell &amp; Telus.  They both suck equally, but I would have to lean towards Bell for my monies worth.</p>
<p>Why would the government interfere with Rogers ?  The more Rogers charges, the more tax they get.  Kind of like biting the hand that feeds.</p>
<p>I would like to hope that Jesus Jobs can help us.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bank on it though.</p>
<p>Cheers.
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