thin phone this, thin phone that. my friend dropped his iPhone once and now has a crak from corner to corner. pretty fragile. if u want a thin phone, get the iPhone. i dropped my treo 700WX multiple times and still works fine. i personally think the iPhone is crap. i have yet to see an OS better than WM. u dnt like the treo design, fine, go get sumthin else. i bought the 800w without even reading the specs because i knew it wld b a great phone and i was not disapointed. if all you have to complain about it the look (opinion) then palm is obviously doin sumthin right. i think the iphone is ugly. that ain’t gon make u not want it. ill stick to my 800w for a while. i’m likin the Treo Pro as well.

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BUT…
–if I waited will the Treo 800 come out in a Palm OS?

–can the 800 be a GPS/turn by turn direction guide without a monthly fee?

If the above 2 answers are no, I may as well go ahead and get the 755P now from Verizon wireless!!

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so you are saying that I can definetly use this phone in japan if I purchase it in Australia. I currently have a 750 and it is no good to me in Japan at all.

would appreciate any help on this
Cheers Jess

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A) It’s not a slider (thank god!!!)
B) It’s straight forward, easy to use
C) Qwerty
D) Bluetooth
E) WM6
F) These other features I don’t care aboutm but . . . GPS, Wifi, 3g etc…

I will take a SOLID well built smartphone over an innovative buggy moving parts galore pain in the ass any day. I’ve tried sliders, they stink. I want to be able to email and text one handed (yes, while driving – do it all the time) and this is the only phone I can do that with in a reliable solid design (the 700w/wx 755p etc).

Ok, onto Palm OS vs WM I’ve had a Treo 650, 700P, and now a 755P. I’ve also had the 700w, 700wx, and the xv6800 (and some non-pro WM phones for breif periods).

I’m sticking with the 755P for now just because I’m waiting, patiently *cough*, for the 800W. This 755P is my last ditch effort to like Palm OS, and I’ve officially decided that I hate it.

The WM OS from a useability and aesthetics stand point is FAAAARRR superior to Palm OS. WM is CLEAN looking, Palm OS interface looks like a child drawing their interpretation of a computer screen in 1992. It’s just clunky, far too basic etc. Ironically one would think the “basic” look of Palm OS would lend to it’s reliability but I must say, I have never found a Palm OS smartphone to be significantly more reliable / stable than a WM phone. They both have many issues, the issues they have though are just different. The Palm OS tends to know it screwed up and resets itself, the WM’s need a reset button pushed or the battery flipped. the Palm OS is REALLY slow compared to every other WM phone I’ve had. Sure WM when you don’t manage the multi-tasking memory (which Palm can’t even do yet, jeez) WM phones slow down too, but properly managed they scream compared to Palm OS. I’ve missed many many incoming calls on Palm OS that try to answer. Push green answer call button, nothing happens, push on screen answer, nothing happens, keep trying to push them both, nothing happens, call goes to voicemail. I don’t recall my WM phones ever doing that.

Another highly annoying problem for me and Palm OS is the lack of full functionality of contacts, calendar, email etc which to me is the entire point of the smartphone to begin with. What I have in a calendar card, contact card or email (and email folders) in my outlook client on my computer is also available on a WM phone – PERIOD. On Palm OS, not so much. I can’t move emails to other folders on the Palm. I can’t create appointments on Palm OS and expect those to make it to my PC. The list goes on…Palm OS just seems to do a lousy job at it’s job.

Another note that’s really annoying on Palm OS…No matter how many times I reset the notifications for emails etc they just never work right. I have to manually check my phone all the time for emails, I never had to do that on WM.

There is only one thing I like about my 755P over any other WM phone currently and that’s that I am a Realtor and the software that I use to open lockboxes on homes runs on Palm OS and WM and on Palm OS is BLAZING FAST…No waiting, it just works, where as on the WM it’s slow and error prone…But that’s only true with that ONE application and the company that makes that software knows its a problem and is working to resolve it. All other sofrware, especially the software I rely on the most that is the CORE of any smartphone (phone, email, calendar, contacts, web browser) is much MUCH more functional, reliable, useable and aesthetically pleasing on WM than Palm OS.

As for why I like the Palm Treo’s rather than the competition WM phones? The keyboard and form factor of the phone.

Anywho, if I never have another Palm OS phone it will be too soon. Can’t wait to ditch my current 755P.

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How’s the hardware in your opinion, specifically the narrow keyboard (narrow like a Centro according the spec dimensions)?

Sure wish it had WM6.1.

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I would actually give up the built-in GPS and continue to use my BT GPS unit if I could buy something that met the other 4 specs today.

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Gotta love HTC.

But I’m gonna stick to my Blackberry 8110. 3G is not important to me, I have my home computer with broadband for browsing the internet. And I hate Wifi because I don’t like to be tied down to somebodys router that (unless it sucks) you still have to pay for.

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I don’t like the Treo 800 form factor / look any more than any one else here, but like you say, what alternative phones have the same feature set? I dare say there is nothing on the market today (and the 800 ain’t available yet, either, so let’s see which horse wins the race to market!)

- Quadband GSM + some flavor of 3G (ideally tri-band 3G including 2100MHz so I can use it in Japan and Korea – i.e. a true world phone)
- WiFi integrated/internal
- GPS integrated/internal
- Touchscreen
- QWERTY keyboard on the front of the device to support real one-handed use (no sideways slide out).

It’s possible to get 3 (even 4 in rare cases) of the 5 features above, but not all 5 of those features on any device available on the market(anywhere) today…..at least none that I’m aware of.

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I don’t like the Treo 800 form factor / look any more than any one else here, but like you say, what alternative phones have the same feature set? I dare say there is nothing on the market today (and the 800 ain’t available yet, either, so let’s see which horse wins the race to market!)

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@Vik: Yes, its the 3G iPhone and it will be out on AT&T or jailbroken on any GSM carrier worldwide, by the end of June.

Oh and it will still be 1/2 the thickness of the 800w.

@PALM: FAIL!

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But it really is amazing how they still have money to pump out another ugly p.o.s. every week.

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