Comments on: BlackBerry “Niagara”: The 3G-less BlackBerry 9000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:21:53 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: sevilea http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-467258 sevilea Fri, 15 May 2009 20:30:19 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-467258 I'm going to make my own prototype of a Blackberry. Thanks for the trade secret ! I’m going to make my own prototype of a Blackberry.

Thanks for the trade secret !

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]]> By: mslola http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-189088 mslola Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:56:57 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-189088 Wow, you're a dumbass, it's called freedom of speech, and if they didn't want their information leaked, MAYBE they should have been more secretive and cautious as to who they told. Wow, you’re a dumbass, it’s called freedom of speech, and if they didn’t want their information leaked, MAYBE they should have been more secretive and cautious as to who they told.

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]]> By: C http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-169548 C Mon, 12 May 2008 14:47:01 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-169548 i'm not familiar with 3G. can anyone tell me what is 3G? why would i want 3G? what does 3G provide? i’m not familiar with 3G. can anyone tell me what is 3G? why would i want 3G? what does 3G provide?

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]]> By: That70sGAdawg http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-169289 That70sGAdawg Mon, 12 May 2008 01:44:17 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-169289 The SEC is the best College Football Conference in The United States! Oh, It also stands for the Securities and Exchange Commission- watching for stock market fraud. It's stupid to make threats on a forum anyways. That's what Lawyers are for (stupid threats). The darn phone will be announced tomorrow at the WES conference. Chill people! The SEC is the best College Football Conference in The United States!
Oh, It also stands for the Securities and Exchange Commission- watching for stock market fraud.
It’s stupid to make threats on a forum anyways. That’s what Lawyers are for (stupid threats). The darn phone will be announced tomorrow at the WES conference. Chill people!

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]]> By: Karim http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-168486 Karim Fri, 09 May 2008 23:28:38 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-168486 I dont even know what SEC is I dont even know what SEC is

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]]> By: ChrisNYC http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-166635 ChrisNYC Tue, 06 May 2008 21:00:56 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166635 @specced You're going to have people accusing blogs and sites of profiting from stories they break, it's nothing new. Investors have been trolling these sites for years, looking for scoops. RIM shares have been hot for a long time. Why? because it's a great product line. I own the stock myself. Did I buy more when I saw the clamshell leak? Nope. I have bought stock in companies when I hear leaks out of shows like CES, like when Anadigics got into Qualcomm. I think that was cNet. I say don't attack the media or the internet over these scoops. @specced

You’re going to have people accusing blogs and sites of profiting from stories they break, it’s nothing new.

Investors have been trolling these sites for years, looking for scoops. RIM shares have been hot for a long time. Why? because it’s a great product line. I own the stock myself.

Did I buy more when I saw the clamshell leak? Nope.

I have bought stock in companies when I hear leaks out of shows like CES, like when Anadigics got into Qualcomm. I think that was cNet.

I say don’t attack the media or the internet over these scoops.

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]]> By: Geoff http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-166249 Geoff Tue, 06 May 2008 03:44:37 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166249 no 3g and cheaper price sounds good, especially with 25mb of data here on rogers in Canada, that's the best bb plan here and anything over is $7 a my 3g just burns thru that quicker to end up costing you way more. no 3g and cheaper price sounds good, especially with 25mb of data here on rogers in Canada, that’s the best bb plan here and anything over is $7 a my 3g just burns thru that quicker to end up costing you way more.

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]]> By: specced http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-166194 specced Mon, 05 May 2008 22:00:53 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166194 Hey Boy Dumbass, I know reading comprehension skills are tough to master, so let me help you out a bit. Here's the article you're trying to refer to: http://www.wellingtonfund.com/blog/2008/05/02/boy-genius-pr-genius-but-a-disclosure-nightmare/ Here's what it says, condensed, for your dumb ass: Leaks like this one are good PR that create tons of hype and can actually bump up a stock's price. But that bump in stock prices can be an issue if BGR were to have invested in RIM, or if RIM itself were responsible for the leaks. If they're a third party or employee leak, it still, conceptually, could one day become an SEC issue. Why? Because RIM's stock traded at 5% higher after news on the Kickstart broke on BGR. That's $3.5 billion more according to the above author. There's a bit more, but I'm still assuming that given a few hours, you could get a decent understanding of that approx 6-800 word, informally written blog post. Or are you that much of an idiot? Hey Boy Dumbass, I know reading comprehension skills are tough to master, so let me help you out a bit.

Here’s the article you’re trying to refer to:

http://www.wellingtonfund.com/blog/2008/05/02/boy-genius-pr-genius-but-a-disclosure-nightmare/

Here’s what it says, condensed, for your dumb ass:

Leaks like this one are good PR that create tons of hype and can actually bump up a stock’s price. But that bump in stock prices can be an issue if BGR were to have invested in RIM, or if RIM itself were responsible for the leaks. If they’re a third party or employee leak, it still, conceptually, could one day become an SEC issue. Why? Because RIM’s stock traded at 5% higher after news on the Kickstart broke on BGR. That’s $3.5 billion more according to the above author. There’s a bit more, but I’m still assuming that given a few hours, you could get a decent understanding of that approx 6-800 word, informally written blog post. Or are you that much of an idiot?

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]]> By: Nic http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-166191 Nic Mon, 05 May 2008 21:53:36 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166191 Well Said! Happy Cinco de Mayo Homies! Well Said!

Happy Cinco de Mayo Homies!

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]]> By: Rudy http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-166183 Rudy Mon, 05 May 2008 21:40:42 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166183 I have to ignore all of this crap. The truth is no matter how much BGR does a lot of 'blah blah blah', at the end of the day, the only 2 relevant questions aren't being answered. What day and how much? I have to ignore all of this crap. The truth is no matter how much BGR does a lot of ‘blah blah blah’, at the end of the day, the only 2 relevant questions aren’t being answered.

What day and how much?

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]]> By: GlennP http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-166178 GlennP Mon, 05 May 2008 21:16:46 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166178 Well i myself wouldnt, as the only reason i was going to get a 9000 was because of the 3G. The battery life on my curve is decent enough, and the screen is good to me. As for the wifi/gps thing, i barely use the wifi built in, and have no need for the GPS. I'll take a 3G 9k anyday, but to me, without the 3G, its just an updated curve Well i myself wouldnt, as the only reason i was going to get a 9000 was because of the 3G. The battery life on my curve is decent enough, and the screen is good to me. As for the wifi/gps thing, i barely use the wifi built in, and have no need for the GPS. I’ll take a 3G 9k anyday, but to me, without the 3G, its just an updated curve

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]]> By: kyle http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-166171 kyle Mon, 05 May 2008 20:34:52 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166171 Now the pondering begins no 3g less money or 3g and faster speeds oh wait I live in a rural area that probably won't see 3g for a good 3 to 5 years. Also to the guy who said who with a curve would buy a 3gless 9000. Well I know a lot of us 8300 users will and also tech nerds such as myself who are inticed by better screen resolutions more horspower and gps+wifi Now the pondering begins no 3g less money or 3g and faster speeds oh wait I live in a rural area that probably won’t see 3g for a good 3 to 5 years. Also to the guy who said who with a curve would buy a 3gless 9000. Well I know a lot of us 8300 users will and also tech nerds such as myself who are inticed by better screen resolutions more horspower and gps+wifi

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]]> By: Brian http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-166164 Brian Mon, 05 May 2008 20:16:00 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166164 Will this be released at the same time as the 9000 and be available through the same sales channels? Will this be released at the same time as the 9000 and be available through the same sales channels?

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]]> By: Bla1ze http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-166134 Bla1ze Mon, 05 May 2008 18:31:45 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166134 Not everyone cares about 3G anyways, I have never had a problem with the speed of EDGE and I'm in Canada on Rogers Wireless, on top of that the more 3G devices that get released and purchased clears up more bandwidth off of EDGE, EDGE services will still be around for a long time, just like Analog/TDMA services were, their is TOO many devices out there that need the continued support for EDGE. As for the SEC post, I'm still lol'n at that, I'm guessing half..if not more of this information is being leaked by RIM anyways in way or another...personally I think it's geared towards viral marketing, with WES coming up..RIM is building their own hype aside from the hype the "BlackBerry" name already carries. Their's a play on the Research In Motion name, that is commonly used in Canada, it best describes RIM to a tee... Rumors In Motion Not everyone cares about 3G anyways, I have never had a problem with the speed of EDGE and I’m in Canada on Rogers Wireless, on top of that the more 3G devices that get released and purchased clears up more bandwidth off of EDGE, EDGE services will still be around for a long time, just like Analog/TDMA services were, their is TOO many devices out there that need the continued support for EDGE.

As for the SEC post, I’m still lol’n at that, I’m guessing half..if not more of this information is being leaked by RIM anyways in way or another…personally I think it’s geared towards viral marketing, with WES coming up..RIM is building their own hype aside from the hype the “BlackBerry” name already carries.

Their’s a play on the Research In Motion name, that is commonly used in Canada, it best describes RIM to a tee…

Rumors In Motion

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]]> By: Bohemian http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-166128 Bohemian Mon, 05 May 2008 18:23:34 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166128 3G is not necessary. But seems like somebody up there is pushing for it to come out any way. Mass control maybe? (shrugs) Bohemian - http://www.pickmeupteam.wordpress.com 3G is not necessary. But seems like somebody up there is pushing for it to come out any way. Mass control maybe? (shrugs) Bohemian – http://www.pickmeupteam.wordpress.com

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]]> By: terencecah http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-166082 terencecah Mon, 05 May 2008 15:56:46 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166082 9000 price point? I bought my 8800 for att back when it was cingular and it was 250 USD (50 MIB, so 200 USD total) after a 2 year upgrade contract I can't see the 9000 being over 300 with a 2 year agreement, but then again I don't know much when it comes to price points. I absolutely want to grab the 9000 when it comes out but at a decent price (no more than 300) 9000 price point?

I bought my 8800 for att back when it was cingular and it was 250 USD (50 MIB, so 200 USD total) after a 2 year upgrade contract

I can’t see the 9000 being over 300 with a 2 year agreement, but then again I don’t know much when it comes to price points.

I absolutely want to grab the 9000 when it comes out but at a decent price (no more than 300)

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]]> By: GearsofWar http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-166078 GearsofWar Mon, 05 May 2008 15:36:06 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166078 I think its interesting how RIM is exploring different configurations. Everyone criticized Apple for not going 3G/GPS/WiFi/Bluetooth on their first phone, but RIM obviously realizes (like Apple) that its not that easy to provide every single feature at a) acceptable battery life b) acceptable price point. I think its interesting how RIM is exploring different configurations. Everyone criticized Apple for not going 3G/GPS/WiFi/Bluetooth on their first phone, but RIM obviously realizes (like Apple) that its not that easy to provide every single feature at a) acceptable battery life b) acceptable price point.

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]]> By: waffle sauce http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-2/#comment-166074 waffle sauce Mon, 05 May 2008 15:27:07 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166074 So I am guessing the 9000 BB w/out 3G can only Spawn Fairies from the convenience key as opposed to the Dragons the 9000 BB with 3G Can spawn. hmmmmmmm. So I am guessing the 9000 BB w/out 3G can only Spawn Fairies from the convenience key as opposed to the Dragons the 9000 BB with 3G Can spawn.

hmmmmmmm.

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]]> By: luc-mobile http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-1/#comment-166073 luc-mobile Mon, 05 May 2008 15:26:34 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166073 3G, 3G, 3G. 3G, 3G, 3G. 3G, 3G, 3G. That surely brings me warm and fuzzy memories of broken vynil records. So I guess I'm the only one who doesn't give a damn about 3G3G3G and wants a damn bigger screen. 3G, 3G, 3G.
3G, 3G, 3G.
3G, 3G, 3G.

That surely brings me warm and fuzzy memories of broken vynil records.

So I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t give a damn about 3G3G3G and wants a damn bigger screen.

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]]> By: Brian G. http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-1/#comment-166071 Brian G. Mon, 05 May 2008 15:08:06 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166071 Agreed! I have heard that the developers of the EDGE network (not AT&T by the way) are working on a software upgrade (remember that's all EDGE was for GPRS) that will make EDGE faster. I am not suprised this hasn't been mentioned as the only people that would benefit are the CUSTOMERS! Agreed! I have heard that the developers of the EDGE network (not AT&T by the way) are working on a software upgrade (remember that’s all EDGE was for GPRS) that will make EDGE faster. I am not suprised this hasn’t been mentioned as the only people that would benefit are the CUSTOMERS!

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]]> By: galvatron http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-1/#comment-166064 galvatron Mon, 05 May 2008 14:50:57 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166064 eeh im good with my 8800 for now unless th 3gless900 has wifi illl garba an 8820 eeh im good with my 8800 for now unless th 3gless900 has wifi illl garba an 8820

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]]> By: KeNNethX http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-1/#comment-166060 KeNNethX Mon, 05 May 2008 14:46:24 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166060 OS 4.6 (not the promise of one day having 4.5), Better Browser, newer themes and features. OS 4.6 (not the promise of one day having 4.5), Better Browser, newer themes and features.

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]]> By: Maurice http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-1/#comment-166057 Maurice Mon, 05 May 2008 14:32:38 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166057 i like it, will have to see it for myself to make a real decision, thanks for the info BG i like it, will have to see it for myself to make a real decision, thanks for the info BG

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]]> By: GMERK http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-1/#comment-166052 GMERK Mon, 05 May 2008 14:19:12 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166052 Garbage!!! Garbage!!!

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]]> By: pheer6224 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-1/#comment-166051 pheer6224 Mon, 05 May 2008 14:18:57 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166051 well, at least my sda is'nt outdated yet. well, at least my sda is’nt outdated yet.

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]]> By: ChrisNYC http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-1/#comment-166050 ChrisNYC Mon, 05 May 2008 14:12:38 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166050 "Hey Boy Dumbass, you are about to be sued by the SEC for leaking insider information. I know you are not residing in the United States or Canada for example. However, your boss works in the US, and is subject to the regulation by the SEC." I'm trying to ponder how a Canadian web site posting a leaked picture of a phone made in Ontario is an issue for the SEC? If there was any harm done, it's not evident in the shares of RIMM which trade on NASDAQ, they are at a new all time high today. If some kid at RIMM sneaks into the toilet to take a picture of a new clamshell design, if BG didn't post it, a dozen other sites would. I think the SEC has it's hands full chasing down insider-trading, rogues, sos-bandits and Arbs. People actually trading, manipulating, and profiteering. “Hey Boy Dumbass, you are about to be sued by the SEC for leaking insider information. I know you are not residing in the United States or Canada for example. However, your boss works in the US, and is subject to the regulation by the SEC.”

I’m trying to ponder how a Canadian web site posting a leaked picture of a phone made in Ontario is an issue for the SEC?

If there was any harm done, it’s not evident in the shares of RIMM which trade on NASDAQ, they are at a new all time high today.

If some kid at RIMM sneaks into the toilet to take a picture of a new clamshell design, if BG didn’t post it, a dozen other sites would.

I think the SEC has it’s hands full chasing down insider-trading, rogues, sos-bandits and Arbs. People actually trading, manipulating, and profiteering.

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]]> By: FARBES http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-1/#comment-166049 FARBES Mon, 05 May 2008 14:04:13 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166049 it is soo beautiful design! it is soo beautiful design!

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]]> By: Adam http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-1/#comment-166048 Adam Mon, 05 May 2008 13:57:05 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166048 Becuase you will be able to get wifi and gps on one device. By your sugesstion you would need a bb curve 8310 and 8320. Becuase you will be able to get wifi and gps on one device. By your sugesstion you would need a bb curve 8310 and 8320.

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]]> By: SLVR6 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-1/#comment-166044 SLVR6 Mon, 05 May 2008 13:44:38 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166044 I guess I can see the point of it from a business side when email and battery life are the 2 biggest factors. 3G would be less important to them......unless they travel to Korea and Japan, then it would be essential so they could finally travel with 1 phone. Choices..... I guess I can see the point of it from a business side when email and battery life are the 2 biggest factors. 3G would be less important to them……unless they travel to Korea and Japan, then it would be essential so they could finally travel with 1 phone. Choices…..

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]]> By: ChrisNYC http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/comment-page-1/#comment-166037 ChrisNYC Mon, 05 May 2008 13:22:28 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/05/blackberry-niagara-the-3g-less-blackberry-9000/#comment-166037 Anyone have a guess at the price on this thing? I'm curious to learn how much extra the 3G chipset costs, also what else is in the 3G phone that ramps the cost. Thanks in advance. Anyone have a guess at the price on this thing? I’m curious to learn how much extra the 3G chipset costs, also what else is in the 3G phone that ramps the cost. Thanks in advance.

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