Comments on: iPhone SDK Honeymoon Over – No Background Processes?!

By: Barbara burrowes

Barbara burrowes — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:24:04 +0000

hey A + A+ that boy is awesome

By: Ram

Ram — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:20:27 +0000

I can understand the non multitasking thing… And frankly I welcome it.
The reason is that with the whole battery installation thing and the limited battery life the Iphone has compared to others, multitasking would have been a bad idea, actually in my 3g I keep background tasks as low as possible…

By: Anthony Topper

Anthony Topper — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:30:46 +0000

Maybe Android will come along, squash the iPhone, and make us all smile.

By: George

George — Tue, 20 May 2008 17:29:56 +0000

Does enyone know if Apple will eventually provide a workaround or already has?

Please let me know

Thanks:)

By: rand

rand — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:23:55 +0000

@LiSa
you mean the OS that nokia is trying to move away from? hehe, yeah. so much better than the iPhone OS.

By: rand

rand — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:20:11 +0000

@Galvatron

how about the millions of promises MS makes and doesn’t keep, never has any intention of keeping. (NAB year after year after year, look it up if you need examples:).

As for your ‘claim’ that they (apple) are screwing developers, you may want to sit back and think about it for a sec. if apple pulled the no background apps 3 months after releasing apps then sure, you could claim that, but announcing it before anything starts, well your just spreading BS.

/cheers

By: Andilek

Andilek — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:37:27 +0000

What bothers me most on Palm, is ssh. When I am working on a server and I receive some SMS, the connection is closed at once. If the phone would have multitasking, I am safe and can simply take care about SMS and continue with ssh session.
So hopefully terminal will be standard apple aplication on iPhone platform supporting multitasking, and I am safe

By: raulr

raulr — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:48:46 +0000

Guess that means we’ll just have both the Apple installer and community app installer. Devs can use Apple for things they would sanction and Installer.app or Cydia for a little more flexibility.

By: raulr

raulr — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:46:48 +0000

For those that are asking does a jailbroken iPhone run apps in the background. Yes, the IM clients (Apollo and Mobile Chat) and MMS client (Swirly MMS) and I’m sure others run in the background.

By: J

Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:06:10 +0000

“but I’m glad Apple makes sure iPhone will not become just another piece of crashing, hacked junk you all so desperately crave.”

Me too, I’d hate for it to become like that one phone where Safari crashes all the time and it gets hacked by a group of 13 year olds everytime they come out with a new version. Oh wait…

By: Christopher Cox

Christopher Cox — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:11:18 +0000

Have you guys even watched the event as a video podcast on iTunes and seen the SDK tools? That thing is awesome! Developers are going to be able to write better and more functional apps than any other mobile platform. That thing is absolutely amazing. Do you realize that with this SDK you can put together a kick butt app in very little time? When the apps actually start coming out it will put apps on other mobile platforms to shame. If I had an Apple computer with OSX I would download the SDK and get right to work. I can’t think of another mobile development environment that builds the app, installs, runs, and remotely monitors the program you are writing with one click. Monitor performance and view my stack trace in real time remotely while running on the device? Tell me another mobile development platform with these features.

By: LiSa

LiSa — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:02:46 +0000

i’m glad you put symbian in there! yet another reason why the N95 is a MUCH BETTER CHOICE than the piece of sh!t crapple!!!

By: non-tech

non-tech — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:42:02 +0000

Stability and security. All you haters can whine all you want, but I’m glad Apple makes sure iPhone will not become just another piece of crashing, hacked junk you all so desperately crave.

By: Nathan Scheffey

Nathan Scheffey — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:07:29 +0000

Christopher Cox is completely right, this is way overblown. Apple is telling developers to design their applications so that switching between applications feels seamless. Any app that “lost” all your unread messages or settings would just be stupidly designed and no one would buy it.
The ONLY potential app this could affect would be AIM, and I suspected there would be a lot of resistance to putting chat programs on a phone, as it has the potential to completely destroy the texting market. But we will see…..

By: Christopher Cox

Christopher Cox — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:41:23 +0000

@Galvatron

Holy crap man finally a post from you that I can comprehend!!! Is someone spelling for you? Or did you finally get some English classes? Anyways you still spelled “which” wrong.

By: Richard John

Richard John — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:57:59 +0000

So the best app at at the moment (MobileScrobbler) will not be possible with the SDK.. nice, Apple!

By: hill

hill — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:53:14 +0000

Steve Jobs should have teamed up with VZW then all this Gestapo crap would make sense. Still happy I don’t have an iphone.

By: Galvatron

Galvatron — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:20:09 +0000

@dario mo kidding they make M$ look like saints
they always have. jobs needs to stop acid triping , take some anger managment classes, and stop making promises they can’t keep wich makes them sound like demacratic politicians.

By: dario

dario — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:15:14 +0000

Show stopper? No. Palm all over again. Yes. But only for 3rd party software this time. So I guess it must be okay then. I guess the less than elegant Windows Mobile will have something over the iPhone for a little bit longer it seems.

Come on Apple, give me a reason to switch. You guys are getting worse than Microsoft.

By: Christopher Cox

Christopher Cox — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:07:25 +0000

Okay the author of this article is exagerating big time. Show me a method in a jailbroken iPhone (barring terminal jobs and daemons) that lets you switch back and forth between running applications except for the double tap of the home button in the iPod application. Log out and lose all unread messages? Give me a break. Most likely the app will be able to suspend and save current data when something interrupts it. When you go back, your old messages will still be there. AIM disconnecting when you get a call? WTF are you talking about???? EDGE cannot do voice and data at the same time!!! I really don’t care what kind of multitasking you are doing, if you are on EDGE, you will not be able to remain connected when a voice call comes in any freaking way. The only thing that saves you is that the AIM server doesnt actually disconnect you unless your program sends a disconnect signal or you are not connected within a specific timeout. This means it can pick right back up where it left off when you come back to the application (and you dont initiate a re-connect). The ONLY disadvantage this brings from the norm are if you want to stay on AIM 24/7 in the background or other daemons. This will not be a show stopper for most people.

By: CarBob

CarBob — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:17:12 +0000

Galvatron,

I have to spend so much time trying to read your posts. How about using some punctuation
occasionally.

Keep on Crackin’,

- CB

By: kimosabii

kimosabii — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:41:57 +0000

suckers you can multi-task on a sidekick.
apple sucks.

By: Galvatron

Galvatron — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:40:23 +0000

yeah dtest butthis is getting old overhype the big letdown Imean comeon arn’t all the fanboys tired of the same old song?

By: Allan

Allan — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:59:53 +0000

Jesus, did you even read the article?

“Of course we know that the iPhone can multitask; just consider the apps we have now, or use Sysinfo to take a look through the running processes and you can see. Apparently however, third-party app developers will not be granted the necessary rights for their apps to make use of background processes.”

So native apps are allowed to multitask, but third-party apps cannot. Sucks.

By: Dtest5477

Dtest5477 — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:32:48 +0000

I think this is a little knee-jerk type reaction, as TJ states thsi does not apply to all apps. think people need to relax and see the apps that come in June before ruling this a failure. As always though, if its not for you then so be it, RIM makes a good device as well.

By: Dr Funk

Dr Funk — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:21:51 +0000

I don’t see this as being so horrible. This is similar to the way that Palm handles it’s apps. Coding Multi-Threaded apps is not easy and can be a recipe for disaster. That is one of the reasons that the Palm platform is so stable. That being said, they should allow for an enterprise SDK(read more expensive) That will allow professional software companies(who know what they are doing) to code multi-threaded apps.

By: TJ Joyce

TJ Joyce — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:55:06 +0000

I don’t think this is entirely accurate. Example: Pull up and email and reply to it. Type a few sentences and then hit the home button. Open up SMS and start typing one, but don’t finish and don’t send it. Hit the home button again, do the same with a note, but hit the home button while the keyboard is still up. Now go back to mail and you will realize everything is right where you left it. Same with the SMS and the notes. Just because you close it down doesn’t mean it starts you over from scratch again. I think there are going to be ways around this that will be discovered as the dev. community digs a little deeper.

By: TxdoHawk

TxdoHawk — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:51:45 +0000

Wow, who thought that was even a remotely good idea? I am totally disappointed. =(

By: Nick

Nick — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:34:21 +0000

DEAL BREAKER! I use multiple apps on a regular basis on my BB Curve all the time. For instance, looking up an address in Berry411 and the mapping it in Google Maps all while running BeeJive and texting.

Besides, I have EDGE data now, Im not upgrading till the iPhone has 3G!

By: Justin

Justin — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:27:06 +0000

I guess this ruins the AIM use on an iPhone. I’ve already switched to the Blackberry Curve, but this just makes me not want to ever go back.