Comments on: The Stupidity of a Government – Argentina’s Upcoming DST Changes on 12/30 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/ Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:54:32 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: metalcesare http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-2/#comment-303287 metalcesare Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:56:21 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-303287 NEVER change the title (or anything else) of a permanent post where people can debate without explicitly saying, in the body, that you did. Jerk. I can't believe I even wasted my time posting. NEVER change the title (or anything else) of a permanent post where people can debate without explicitly saying, in the body, that you did. Jerk. I can’t believe I even wasted my time posting.

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]]> By: Marcelo http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-2/#comment-87367 Marcelo Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:51:49 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-87367 No workaround for exchange? Boy Genius. Pffff...! No workaround for exchange?

Boy Genius. Pffff…!

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]]> By: Juan Valdez http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-2/#comment-87089 Juan Valdez Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:20:52 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-87089 I provide support for a scheduling product that runs on both Unix and Windows. On Sunday, Dec. 30, 2007, I received two trouble tickets both from Argentina. One was actually the Argentine government. The problem? The schedule for 12-30 could not even be created and the scheduler created a new schedule for 12-29 instead as it could not figure out what was going on. We could also create a proper schedule for 12-31 by specifying that day. Since the scheduler gets its time from the OS, it was clear that there was either a problem with the Olson timezone database patch on Solaris (if they even had one to apply) or the Microsoft procedure which was a hastily created weblog entry patching the Microsoft Registry. The only solution I could provide to the customer was to run the schedules manually, which both customers reluctantly accepted. As far as I know, everything is still OK. The bottom line is that, thanks to the stupidity of many of the Argentina government officials and legislators up to and including the new president, the OS and software vendors had no time to produce a patch or verify that the procedure would even work. I would say the same thing if the problem occurred in the US. Stupidity is stupidity no matter who it is. Fortunately, the US Timezone change was announced with a two year lead time and the problems encountered when we implemented the DST 2007 Rules were minimal. As the Eagles' song so aptly says "Get Over It!" I provide support for a scheduling product that runs on both Unix and Windows. On Sunday, Dec. 30, 2007, I received two trouble tickets both from Argentina. One was actually the Argentine government.

The problem? The schedule for 12-30 could not even be created and the scheduler created a new schedule for 12-29 instead as it could not figure out what was going on. We could also create a proper schedule for 12-31 by specifying that day.

Since the scheduler gets its time from the OS, it was clear that there was either a problem with the Olson timezone database patch on Solaris (if they even had one to apply) or the Microsoft procedure which was a hastily created weblog entry patching the Microsoft Registry.

The only solution I could provide to the customer was to run the schedules manually, which both customers reluctantly accepted. As far as I know, everything is still OK.

The bottom line is that, thanks to the stupidity of many of the Argentina government officials and legislators up to and including the new president, the OS and software vendors had no time to produce a patch or verify that the procedure would even work.

I would say the same thing if the problem occurred in the US. Stupidity is stupidity no matter who it is. Fortunately, the US Timezone change was announced with a two year lead time and the problems encountered when we implemented the DST 2007 Rules were minimal.

As the Eagles’ song so aptly says “Get Over It!”

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]]> By: Visitor http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-2/#comment-86160 Visitor Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:06:09 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-86160 I am currently living in Argentina and I am working for IBM. IBM delivered a patch for our computers just in time. I guess it was not such a big deal to produce that patch. And I guess if someone at Microsoft Argentina had taken the time to push the guys in Redmond, than MS would have had time to produce such a patch as well. I don't agree on the comments regarding the people and the goverment of Argentina. In Argentina is common practice to blaime the goverment for all the problems. The goverment was elected by the people of Argentina, therefore they also share a part of the responsebility. The people to often forget that they are a part of the problem. I am currently living in Argentina and I am working for IBM. IBM delivered a patch for our computers just in time. I guess it was not such a big deal to produce that patch. And I guess if someone at Microsoft Argentina had taken the time to push the guys in Redmond, than MS would have had time to produce such a patch as well.
I don’t agree on the comments regarding the people and the goverment of Argentina. In Argentina is common practice to blaime the goverment for all the problems. The goverment was elected by the people of Argentina, therefore they also share a part of the responsebility. The people to often forget that they are a part of the problem.

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]]> By: Oswaldo http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-2/#comment-86123 Oswaldo Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:56:17 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-86123 This is the most stupid (innitialy offensive) post on BGR of 2007. This is the most stupid (innitialy offensive) post on BGR of 2007.

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]]> By: HHC http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-2/#comment-85957 HHC Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:39:22 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85957 Jibi, i am argentinian, and i am 100% in accordance. The feeling that a lot of people from outside the country is knowning our goverment is quite releasing, the spirit of them is that "there is anything that they don't know", so the can do whatever they want, no like the dicatator from venezuela, but on the way. Thank you for your post. Regards Jibi, i am argentinian, and i am 100% in accordance. The feeling that a lot of people from outside the country is knowning our goverment is quite releasing, the spirit of them is that “there is anything that they don’t know”, so the can do whatever they want, no like the dicatator from venezuela, but on the way. Thank you for your post. Regards

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]]> By: Carlos http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-2/#comment-85936 Carlos Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:45:42 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85936 Opps i guess i should learn some geography before attacking other people's arguments. Sorry about that. Jibi did apologize so i guess i'll return to being an avid BGR reader. Thanks for changing the heading, and next time try to approach things with a lighter tone (even though the topic simply asks to be ridiculed). FYI: the technical information added to provide the post some credible weight helps also. Anyway, BGR YOU HAVE REDEEMED YOURSELF. ^^^ thats was a joke, if you didn't get it. Opps i guess i should learn some geography before attacking other people’s arguments. Sorry about that. Jibi did apologize so i guess i’ll return to being an avid BGR reader. Thanks for changing the heading, and next time try to approach things with a lighter tone (even though the topic simply asks to be ridiculed).

FYI: the technical information added to provide the post some credible weight helps also.

Anyway, BGR YOU HAVE REDEEMED YOURSELF.

^^^ thats was a joke, if you didn’t get it.

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]]> By: Nicolas http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-2/#comment-85765 Nicolas Mon, 31 Dec 2007 02:28:40 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85765 I live in Argentina. I agree with all the blog posts I have seen calling our government "stupid" for this change. Most people commenting are overreacting; although I agree that the previous title was offensive. Don't blame the country for the government stupidity, particularly since we didn't exactly vote the current president (there was lots of fraud). Microsoft sucks most of the time, but they're completely right on this. The government didn't give anyone enough time to be ready for the timezone change. Microsoft *knows* how to fix the timezone, they just couldn't do the update and deploy it on computers around the world *in a fucking week*. So put away your "stupidity of Microsoft, cant add an option for the time change" comments. Not to mention the energy savings probably will be negligible. @Gov: Electricity usage has increased. Get over it. Generate more electricity, instead of hiding the problem with time changes or stopping industry. I live in Argentina. I agree with all the blog posts I have seen calling our government “stupid” for this change. Most people commenting are overreacting; although I agree that the previous title was offensive. Don’t blame the country for the government stupidity, particularly since we didn’t exactly vote the current president (there was lots of fraud).

Microsoft sucks most of the time, but they’re completely right on this. The government didn’t give anyone enough time to be ready for the timezone change. Microsoft *knows* how to fix the timezone, they just couldn’t do the update and deploy it on computers around the world *in a fucking week*. So put away your “stupidity of Microsoft, cant add an option for the time change” comments.

Not to mention the energy savings probably will be negligible. @Gov: Electricity usage has increased. Get over it. Generate more electricity, instead of hiding the problem with time changes or stopping industry.

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]]> By: ROGER http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-2/#comment-85763 ROGER Mon, 31 Dec 2007 02:08:49 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85763 Can't comment on the contraversy. But guys - be nice and polite. Its the best way for us all to act. I did speak to my BES supplier (http://www.123together.com/mobility.xhtml)and they said they could deal with any problems that might arise anywhere in the world. Can’t comment on the contraversy. But guys – be nice and polite. Its the best way for us all to act. I did speak to my BES supplier (http://www.123together.com/mobility.xhtml)and they said they could deal with any problems that might arise anywhere in the world.

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]]> By: maria http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-2/#comment-85752 maria Mon, 31 Dec 2007 01:14:06 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85752 In response to the word stupid used in ARG headline - better than "idiota"!!! -now THAT would be harmful; could cause the need for banging pots and pans in the streets... For all you Americans and others, yes, it sounds cruel - but from an American that lived in the northern province of ARG for years (Misiones) - it's harmless - just another day of politics and quick political decisions that throws off it's citizens - but what else is new? Hey, go there and listen to how they criticize other governments... I think you all are taking this headline way too serious - as they say, "walk a mile in their shoes (or just speak like they do- stupid is not so harmful...) - and they could indeed really agree with this headline" - then go for a beer and an empanada!... hmmm ps: Unaffected?! I think not. It's a huge country; check your map. In response to the word stupid used in ARG headline – better than “idiota”!!! -now THAT would be harmful; could cause the need for banging pots and pans in the streets…

For all you Americans and others, yes, it sounds cruel – but from an American that lived in the northern province of ARG for years (Misiones) – it’s harmless – just another day of politics and quick political decisions that throws off it’s citizens – but what else is new?

Hey, go there and listen to how they criticize other governments… I think you all are taking this headline way too serious – as they say, “walk a mile in their shoes (or just speak like they do- stupid is not so harmful…) – and they could indeed really agree with this headline” – then go for a beer and an empanada!… hmmm

ps: Unaffected?! I think not. It’s a huge country; check your map.

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]]> By: Jeff F http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-2/#comment-85740 Jeff F Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:03:45 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85740 Insane, calm down its a title. Let me get this straight, you can call the U.S. Government 'stupid' and I am supposed to just ignore it, free speech and all. Yet if we make the same statement to another government we all need to be 'hurt' and 'offended' by it? Give BGR a break, if you truly were offended by the comment, then you must have really thin skin. To anyone offended, are you perhaps living in the United States while being offended by free speech? Get used to it and move on. Insane, calm down its a title. Let me get this straight, you can call the U.S. Government ’stupid’ and I am supposed to just ignore it, free speech and all. Yet if we make the same statement to another government we all need to be ‘hurt’ and ‘offended’ by it? Give BGR a break, if you truly were offended by the comment, then you must have really thin skin. To anyone offended, are you perhaps living in the United States while being offended by free speech? Get used to it and move on.

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]]> By: Jibi http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85736 Jibi Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:55:15 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85736 Again, the previous title that included 'Country' rather than 'Government' was not intended to be directed at the persons not involved with the decision. This was stated many times in the article with the descriptive phrases such as "Argentine government" and "government of Argentina". Honestly, for those who were offended by the title, I apologize. There was no ill-will towards the citizens of Argentina meant with the title. Again, the previous title that included ‘Country’ rather than ‘Government’ was not intended to be directed at the persons not involved with the decision. This was stated many times in the article with the descriptive phrases such as “Argentine government” and “government of Argentina”. Honestly, for those who were offended by the title, I apologize. There was no ill-will towards the citizens of Argentina meant with the title.

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]]> By: bluehorseshoe http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85734 bluehorseshoe Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:45:37 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85734 @ HomeroArg Perhaps you should have read the other posts...you're a bit late on this one. BG changed the title of the headline from 'country' to 'government'. Everyone isn't disputing the issue with the government, just the label of pooling the rest of the country in with the phrase 'stupid country'. @ HomeroArg

Perhaps you should have read the other posts…you’re a bit late on this one. BG changed the title of the headline from ‘country’ to ‘government’. Everyone isn’t disputing the issue with the government, just the label of pooling the rest of the country in with the phrase ’stupid country’.

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]]> By: HomeroArg http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85726 HomeroArg Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:20:09 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85726 You should read better. The title says the government is stupid, not the country nor the people. I'm argentinian and i agree completly with jibi, the desicion taken by our government was stupid, not because of the implementation of DST but for doing it with only 9 days of warning. Microsoft released DST patches for several time zones early this year, they could have included Argentina to the list if the government had announced earlier this DST imposition. That would have given time to RIM to release their patches and to us, the IT people, to plan the change a little bit better. Is there no one in the whole government smart enough as to understand the impact of such a change or do they simply don't care ?!? If you ask me, the title could have been "The stupid assholes in the government changed the time and fucked us all" You should read better. The title says the government is stupid, not the country nor the people.
I’m argentinian and i agree completly with jibi, the desicion taken by our government was stupid, not because of the implementation of DST but for doing it with only 9 days of warning.
Microsoft released DST patches for several time zones early this year, they could have included Argentina to the list if the government had announced earlier this DST imposition.
That would have given time to RIM to release their patches and to us, the IT people, to plan the change a little bit better.
Is there no one in the whole government smart enough as to understand the impact of such a change or do they simply don’t care ?!?
If you ask me, the title could have been “The stupid assholes in the government changed the time and fucked us all”

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]]> By: gustavo http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85636 gustavo Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:47:05 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85636 Yeh well, many stupid things are being done in Argentina. This one as many others was done thinking only about president's image which is stupid of course. Your title was also stupid because it's only goal was to provoke and get attention. You must know What Latin Americans usually think about Americans and you are giving them a reason. You shouldn't say stupid country nor stupid government. Stupid decision will be enough... Yeh well, many stupid things are being done in Argentina. This one as many others was done thinking only about president’s image which is stupid of course. Your title was also stupid because it’s only goal was to provoke and get attention. You must know What Latin Americans usually think about Americans and you are giving them a reason. You shouldn’t say stupid country nor stupid government. Stupid decision will be enough…

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]]> By: Juan Valdez http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85558 Juan Valdez Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:11:34 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85558 Carlos: Your arrogant post resembles that of an ignorant jackass as well. Jibi never said the people were ignorant, but rather the government. That jumps off the page in the headline but you elected to be offended before learning the complete facts. As others have suggested, you might also want to learn a little geography yourself as Buenos Aires is at 34deg 35min South. Fresno California is at 36deg North and they do use DST there. Fernando appears to have come to the most correct conclusion when he stated that the new president wanted to appear "green friendly." Let's face it, stupid politicians who pander to the public to get their votes are the real imbeciles throughout the world because all they want to do is stay in power. Roberto from Venezuela: Your ignorant Marxist president is the worst of all stupid dictators. Venezuela, just to be different offset the time by 30 minutes so they are out of step with the remainder of the Western world. Those of us in the mainstream take great offense at the likes of a two-bit dictator like Hugo Chavez. Carlos:

Your arrogant post resembles that of an ignorant jackass as well. Jibi never said the people were ignorant, but rather the government. That jumps off the page in the headline but you elected to be offended before learning the complete facts.

As others have suggested, you might also want to learn a little geography yourself as Buenos Aires is at 34deg 35min South. Fresno California is at 36deg North and they do use DST there.

Fernando appears to have come to the most correct conclusion when he stated that the new president wanted to appear “green friendly.” Let’s face it, stupid politicians who pander to the public to get their votes are the real imbeciles throughout the world because all they want to do is stay in power.

Roberto from Venezuela:

Your ignorant Marxist president is the worst of all stupid dictators. Venezuela, just to be different offset the time by 30 minutes so they are out of step with the remainder of the Western world. Those of us in the mainstream take great offense at the likes of a two-bit dictator like Hugo Chavez.

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]]> By: orangemaze http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85469 orangemaze Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:46:02 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85469 The main issue at hand is the lack of time to reprogram many systems over this short time period during the holidays. I understand it is only changing a timezone, but many systems are custom designed, such as those in use by power, telephone, banking, etc... No I am not saying this is going to be a y2k issue, but it will cause errors. How many systems bill things at certain times? I know here in the USA many telco's have unlimited nites at 9pm. Electric compaines vary rates depending on the time of day. Going deeper into the systems, the interal systems talk to each other and expect to communicate at certain times, hopefully they all go by GMT or UTC time. If you do a quick search of the forums, there are still many issues from the change here in the USA, and we had plenty of time to correct it. I know my bank does all of its end of day processing at 5am EST, would that change? Time will tell, pun intended. How many companies do you think actually started to work on this till the law passed? The main issue at hand is the lack of time to reprogram many systems over this short time period during the holidays. I understand it is only changing a timezone, but many systems are custom designed, such as those in use by power, telephone, banking, etc… No I am not saying this is going to be a y2k issue, but it will cause errors. How many systems bill things at certain times? I know here in the USA many telco’s have unlimited nites at 9pm. Electric compaines vary rates depending on the time of day. Going deeper into the systems, the interal systems talk to each other and expect to communicate at certain times, hopefully they all go by GMT or UTC time. If you do a quick search of the forums, there are still many issues from the change here in the USA, and we had plenty of time to correct it. I know my bank does all of its end of day processing at 5am EST, would that change? Time will tell, pun intended. How many companies do you think actually started to work on this till the law passed?

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]]> By: Federico http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85407 Federico Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:27:13 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85407 @ carlos Argentina near the ecuator ??? well... only the north of it... what about Usuahia, the southest city in the world ? Carlos, I'm from Argentina also but I have to agree that doing this DST thing IN ONE WEEK is really stupid. They should have considered all the changes that have to be made to everything. Next time do as I did last time and do NOT vote for her... @ carlos

Argentina near the ecuator ???
well… only the north of it… what about Usuahia, the southest city in the world ?

Carlos, I’m from Argentina also but I have to agree that doing this DST thing IN ONE WEEK is really stupid. They should have considered all the changes that have to be made to everything.

Next time do as I did last time and do NOT vote for her…

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]]> By: The Boy Genius http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85321 The Boy Genius Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:36:55 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85321 Agreed. I changed the post title to reflect that. I guess we need to make Jibster stick to BlackBerry related posts from now on. Agreed. I changed the post title to reflect that. I guess we need to make Jibster stick to BlackBerry related posts from now on.

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]]> By: Jeff B. http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85311 Jeff B. Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:02:34 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85311 There's no reason that the country is stupid, the government is just a little off, then again look at our brilliant U.S. government. There’s no reason that the country is stupid, the government is just a little off, then again look at our brilliant U.S. government.

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]]> By: jibi http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85276 jibi Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:15:08 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85276 <p>I agree that some may find the title of this article to be offensive, however that was not my intent. The government of a country often times represents the country and its people. Actually, the government should be a direct representation of its people. We often hear that "Americans are pompous" or "Americans are stupid" because of the decisions of our government and our pencil-neck President (whom could easily lose on the 5th Grader game show). Anyhow, as far as the United States government being stupid in reference to our DST changes, I would say they weren't. They passed the law in August 2005 for the changes to be made in March / April 2007. The stupid people with regards to North American DST changes were the American businesses and software vendors oblivious to the changes. Perhaps the only blame that could be placed on the American government would be their failure to properly notify the American public and businesses and the rest of the world. Needless to say, the Argentine government did not only fail in notifying anyone (as of yesterday, "Argentina DST" returned 0 results in Google News), but they also failed to give proper time for planning to those involved with recents points of failure with DST changes.</p> I agree that some may find the title of this article to be offensive, however that was not my intent. The government of a country often times represents the country and its people. Actually, the government should be a direct representation of its people. We often hear that "Americans are pompous" or "Americans are stupid" because of the decisions of our government and our pencil-neck President (whom could easily lose on the 5th Grader game show). Anyhow, as far as the United States government being stupid in reference to our DST changes, I would say they weren’t. They passed the law in August 2005 for the changes to be made in March / April 2007. The stupid people with regards to North American DST changes were the American businesses and software vendors oblivious to the changes. Perhaps the only blame that could be placed on the American government would be their failure to properly notify the American public and businesses and the rest of the world. Needless to say, the Argentine government did not only fail in notifying anyone (as of yesterday, "Argentina DST" returned 0 results in Google News), but they also failed to give proper time for planning to those involved with recents points of failure with DST changes.

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]]> By: ALT http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85242 ALT Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:05:53 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85242 Just a few things: Presidence of Argentina decided the DST implementation last 12/21, but the congress aproved the new law this 12/26 - only four days before the actual change - congress aproved the law to implement the DST with 191 votes for and only two votes against the change. They are now three hours behind UTC. After the change, they will be (UTC -2:00). Just a few things:

Presidence of Argentina decided the DST implementation last 12/21, but the congress aproved the new law this 12/26 – only four days before the actual change – congress aproved the law to implement the DST with 191 votes for and only two votes against the change.

They are now three hours behind UTC. After the change, they will be (UTC -2:00).

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]]> By: bluehorseshoe http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85223 bluehorseshoe Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:33:49 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85223 @ Luke I think what everyone here is trying to say is that the 'government' made the bad decision, not the 'country'. The people of the country have nothing to do with the decision. The phrase in the headline of 'Stupidity of a Country' was just as stupid as the decision made by their country. Obviously the author didn't put much thought into his/her writing, thus being just as stupid. Perhaps being more specific would have addressed their intention better regarding getting their point across. How would you feel being called stupid for something your government has done in err? Many people outside our great nation realize we're not a dumb country, just lack in a pool of credible and intelligent leaders. Bad decision...yes. 'Stupid' country?...comon'. Wonder how they'd feel if AT&T said "Stupid Site" and stopped giving them phones, info, and sponsorship to parties and event invites. Stupid author, but do we hold everyone accountable? @ Luke

I think what everyone here is trying to say is that the ‘government’ made the bad decision, not the ‘country’. The people of the country have nothing to do with the decision. The phrase in the headline of ‘Stupidity of a Country’ was just as stupid as the decision made by their country. Obviously the author didn’t put much thought into his/her writing, thus being just as stupid. Perhaps being more specific would have addressed their intention better regarding getting their point across.

How would you feel being called stupid for something your government has done in err? Many people outside our great nation realize we’re not a dumb country, just lack in a pool of credible and intelligent leaders.

Bad decision…yes. ‘Stupid’ country?…comon’.

Wonder how they’d feel if AT&T said “Stupid Site” and stopped giving them phones, info, and sponsorship to parties and event invites. Stupid author, but do we hold everyone accountable?

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]]> By: Luke http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85210 Luke Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:41:30 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85210 He called them stupid because they, Argentina didnt think this through. Venezuela at least took 6-8 months to study the issue and educate their population as well as give computer companies time to develop patches. Argentina made the decision to switch to DST on December 21st 2007. Their cutover date was December 31st 2007. Thats 10 days in the middle of Christmas and New Years. Do you really think they had time to educate the population or advise computer companies or businesses that depend on the correct time? How many missed meetings and lost deals do you think will occur in the first month? There was no government study. On top off all that, Argentina is a few degrees off the equator in the north and as such, their days and nights are fairly equal) so daylight savings time buys you little if your day is 12 hours long and your night is 12 hours long. It only makes sense for countries that have a winter in which there are shortened daylight hours. A better decision (had they studied it) would be to make the areas of Argentina that are affected by winter months have DST while the other areas not have it. This is a case of a unilateral government decision that occurred without regard to consequences. So yes, they are stupid. He called them stupid because they,
Argentina didnt think this through. Venezuela at least took 6-8 months to study the issue and educate their population as well as give computer companies time to develop patches.
Argentina made the decision to switch to DST on December 21st 2007. Their cutover date was December 31st 2007. Thats 10 days in the middle of Christmas and New Years. Do you really think they had time to educate the population or advise computer companies or businesses that depend on the correct time? How many missed meetings and lost deals do you think will occur in the first month? There was no government study. On top off all that, Argentina is a few degrees off the equator in the north and as such, their days and nights are fairly equal) so daylight savings time buys you little if your day is 12 hours long and your night is 12 hours long. It only makes sense for countries that have a winter in which there are shortened daylight hours. A better decision (had they studied it) would be to make the areas of Argentina that are affected by winter months have DST while the other areas not have it. This is a case of a unilateral government decision that occurred without regard to consequences. So yes, they are stupid.

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]]> By: Dan http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85203 Dan Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:28:29 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85203 I'm a big time reader when it comes to BGR and this headline is too strong. If you wanna stay with your stupidity headline then have it changed "the stupidity of an government" and not "of a country". The people of the country had no part in the change. As a blogger you have the freedom of speech but you still need to be more considerate on what you say Jibi. I hope you change the headline. I’m a big time reader when it comes to BGR and this headline is too strong. If you wanna stay with your stupidity headline then have it changed “the stupidity of an government” and not “of a country”. The people of the country had no part in the change.

As a blogger you have the freedom of speech but you still need to be more considerate on what you say Jibi. I hope you change the headline.

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]]> By: Dtest54 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85120 Dtest54 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:38:54 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85120 The Stupidity of Microsoft and RIM, cant add an option for the new Argentina time change. bluehorseshoe, you know what they call the USA, and its justified. The Stupidity of Microsoft and RIM, cant add an option for the new Argentina time change.

bluehorseshoe, you know what they call the USA, and its justified.

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]]> By: bluehorseshoe http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85113 bluehorseshoe Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:22:23 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85113 Wow...that's a strong headline. I guess calling a country stupid because of its government is reason enough. I wonder what people are saying about the good 'ol USA... You should think these things through before you title something so offensive. Perhaps you should stick to your day job as an engineer. Wow…that’s a strong headline. I guess calling a country stupid because of its government is reason enough.

I wonder what people are saying about the good ‘ol USA…

You should think these things through before you title something so offensive. Perhaps you should stick to your day job as an engineer.

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]]> By: Roberto http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-85021 Roberto Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:55:09 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-85021 I can't believe that you call them stupid, I am from Venezuela and I am offended by your post.... Shame on you Boy Retard, shame on you... I can’t believe that you call them stupid, I am from Venezuela and I am offended by your post…. Shame on you Boy Retard, shame on you…

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]]> By: Boludo! http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-84923 Boludo! Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:12:51 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-84923 Este la tiene clara: <a href="http://twitter.com/amartino/statuses/542584752" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/amartino/statuses/542584752</a> xD Este la tiene clara:

http://twitter.com/amartino/statuses/542584752

xD

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]]> By: SLVR6 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-84920 SLVR6 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 03:48:04 +0000 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/28/the-stupidity-of-a-country-argentina-and-dst/#comment-84920 Hmmm, now they were 2 hours ahead of EST at this time of year, does that mean they will be 3? Have to figure that one out since I have meeting with them for work. Annoying to say the least. Hmmm, now they were 2 hours ahead of EST at this time of year, does that mean they will be 3? Have to figure that one out since I have meeting with them for work. Annoying to say the least.

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