GPS / Rev A. coming for Sprint Mogul in 2008
This sounds promising. Sprint has pulled a double move here, acknowledging issues with the last round of Mogul ROM updates, while at the same time making some pretty exciting promises about the next planned firmware version. The company has released a statement apologizing for the lack of fixes in the last Mogul ROM update. The update was supposed to deal with some pretty specific Bluetooth issues. Sprint is now saying, however, that the best course of action for anyone still experiencing those issues is to downgrade their firmware to the previous version. Seems like a strange course of action, but we’ll ride with it given the next bit of info. Sprint has also said that the Mogul will be getting some GPS capabilities come Q1 2008. The exact quote from Sprint follows:
Additionally, HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. We would also like to extend our thanks to those customers that have taken the time to identify and report these issues to us.
GPS, huh? Sounds good to us, but Rev A. sounds a whole lot better.
Hello Kaiser-killer!
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pffff hahaha @ Pete…sure ok.
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Sprint’s great at apologizing, not so good at following through…
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Ah, yes… the same Rev. A and GPS that we were supposed to get “Fall of 2007″.
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does anybody know if this concerns the Touch too?
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It’s like the battered wife who has finally broken the hold and left.. you really going to go back to what could be a 100th round beating? Gotta go harder, Sprint!
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I hope they upgrade the Touch too.
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Pete: considering this is the equivalent of the Cingular 8525, Kaiser-killer not indeed.
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The 8525 is thicker, doesn’t have GPS and was released before the Mogul. How is it the same?
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Doesn’t matter, all we know is that the Kaiser is HTC’s flagship and the Mogul is not.
If a ROM update gives it GPS then why the hell can’t I do that to my Blackjack?
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as a mogul owner…I hope this is true. But wasn’t a mogul torn down and they realized the gps chip wasn’t the type for stand alone use?
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I’m trying to figure out why anyone would have a Sprint account to begin with. They are so bad on the customer service side, is it shocking to see that they released an update that is ineffective?
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Can’t wait I wich it will be earlyer if true. I need more news from sprint.
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Are we talking about a real GPS chipset that will work with 3rd party software or the crappy Sprint gps service that I am going to have to pay an additional monthly fee for??? I am guessing the latter which is not very exciting.
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In regards to bluehorseshoe,
I currently have two accounts. One with AT&T which I use for voice and my second account which is Sprint due to it’s faster internet connection that’s available in more areas.
Take into consideration that Sprint SERO offers you unlimited text and data starting at $30.00 throw in an additional discount and I’m paying 22.50 a month for it.
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Jeff,
I think I have a strong feeling it’s going to be only the Sprint GPS that you’ll wind up having to pay monthly for.
I don’t think the phone it self has a GPS radio built into it so it’s probably Sprint’s own technology picking up from their towers.
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I saw an FCC picture on the internet that there is an built-in GPS. Did any one heard of any update yet… 16 to go for 2008
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there is an assistetd gps chip in the mogul that needs o be activated in the new firmware. recently, someone leaked a test copy of the firmware, with working evdo rev a and gps through google maps or tomtom navigator. there’s more on ppcgeeks or howardforums
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Pretty much EVERY phone GPS is not intended to be used as a standalone GPS. They all work with the internet to computer you approximate location.
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Actually, since it is a gpsOne chip, it can operate in 4 modes. Sprint cashes in on the assisted mode. Hopefully, the firmware will unlock mode 1, the standalone mode:
gpsOne Operational Modes:
1. Standalone - Your handset has no connection to the network, and uses only the GPS satellite signals it can currently receive to try and establish a location.
2. MS Based - Your handset is connected to the network, and uses the GPS signals + a location signal from the network.
3. MS Assisted - Your handset is connected to the network, uses GPS signals + a location signal then relays its ‘fix’ to the server, which then uses the signal strength from your phone to the network towers to further plot your position. You can still maintain voice communication in this scenario, but not ‘Internet/Network service’ ie Web Browser, IM, streaming TV etc..
4. MS Assisted/Hybrid - Same as above, but network functionality remains. Normally only in areas with exceptional coverage.
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price
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Well now 1:30 Central Standard Time. And yet there is still no update available.
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Actually I have the new ROM running on my phone now and it is awesome. The GPS does work in standalone mode as I have put my phone into airplane mode and the GPS sats are still picked up and routing. Here is the official link for anyone having trouble downloading.
http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_TITAN_SPRINT_WWE_3.35.651.2_RS_TITAN_3.35.04_4350H_SPCS_AM_Ship.exe
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For those like myself that anxiously followed all threads related to the Mogul’s GPS:
The firmware was released on Monday, March 10, 2008. I have it installed, and here’s the scoop (you’ll want to search the ‘net for details):
1. The gpsOne operates in stand-alone mode. Awesome. Even with no Sprint service, the GPS works perfectly. Again, AWESOME.
2. The GPS is mapped to COM4. You will have to configure your “External GPS” phone setting (easy).
3. There IS an excellent GPS antenna in the phone. I actually get better reception than Bluetooth GPS devices, especially indoors.
4. TomTom. If you want to use a TomTom, it doesn’t seem to “trigger” the internal GPS. You have to run a program like “VisualGPSce”, then run TomTom. Hardly an issue. For Google Maps, it works without that trick. I would install VisualGPSce anyway, because it’s a good GPS testing tool. Some day there will be a tool to trigger it in the background without a GUI. Be patient. It’s not a show-stopper.
5. There now is a task manager icon in the start menu next to the clock, and it makes closing applications much easier. Nice.
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Why doesn’t this device support Sprint TV?
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