Comments on: Nokia counters Apple’s iPhone lockdown

By: Jamie

Jamie — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 01:33:19 +0000

The iPhone cheerleaders/crybabies above are either 15-year-old schoolboys or sociopaths. That there mobile device they bought can’t even create or edit office applications. It’s neither “smart” nor “revolutionary”, despite the garbage uncle Steve might tell them before he changes their diapers for them. It’s a nice entertainment tool – hardly professional.

By: emmanuel

emmanuel — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:01:25 +0000

many times when i hear people are using other phones apart from nokia smartphones i really wonder why, my first contact with nokia smart phone was the 3650, after going thru the in phone help cum manual, i said to myself theres no way am going back on .sis, i still remember the hype the iphone brought and how nokia shares dropped during the week of release i told friends it was only for a while, cuz you simply can beat a nokia smartphone. its amazing why nokia releases their phones in europe before elsewhere, i think their releases should be worldwide. trust me the n95 is a great phone, and to get more punch get the 8gig version. this is one truth phone makers hate to admit, while they make phones with so much hype and no content, nokia symbian phones dont have hype but have a great deal of content, in this instance hype will be fine and attractability if i may use that word, while content will be ability to kip you looking into your phone.

one the other hand have you seen the new ngage games coming soon on the n-series platform, check out the ngage website and be stunned at the graphics, EA is releasing fifa 08 on it this november. with a nokia symbian in your palm you sure smoke competition away.

lagos, Nigeria.

By: AlphaVirus

AlphaVirus — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:01:53 +0000

Nokia outpaces all other companies when it comes to quality and customer satisfaction. I seriously want that N95, that phone is so nice. I especially love the 5mp cam it has. I think I might buy this for myself for christmas.

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:03:27 +0000

lmao, the Apple sheep are getting angry.

By: miro

miro — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:31:43 +0000

The 8125 and 8525 have spoiled me as far as QWERTY keyboards go. It’s a shame the N95 doesn’t have one, otherwise I’d be all over it.

With the shift to cellphones being more used more for text messaging and basically being mini computers, it’s weird that more companies aren’t releasing phones with dedicated keyboards.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:17:49 +0000

Just my .02! Had the iPhone, sold it mainly because of the poor phone quality and sudden dropped calls. Loved the ipod. $100 credit got me a new nano. Got the Tilt, WM6, nough said.Hated the lag and slowness. Have the N95-3 now and I love it. Great phone!

By: Joe Luk

Joe Luk — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:02:43 +0000

Its simply a reactionary campaign from Nokia. Particularly in the U.S. smartphone Market, Nokia is now on the outside looking in. The iPhone offers similar functionality to the N95, but with a revolutionary interface. Nokia is a handset manufacturer like Apple, LG, Samsung, and would love to have the deal that Apple has with AT&T, no manufacturer would ever turn that down. The fact of the matter is that they don’t provide the complete top to bottom solution that Apple provides. Nokia makes good phones, the N95 and E61i are two of the most capable smartphones on the market. However, having used them both, they simply cannot beat the user experience of an iPhone. So in reality, this campaign is little more than an attempt to elbow into a niche of the U.S. smartphone market. Unfortunately, the one caveat to this “openness” that Nokia aims for means that most of their smartphones will not be covered by a carrier subsidy, which makes their phones run in the $600-$700 range for the N95. Their devices may not have limits, but they still have prices…

By: Jeff B.

Jeff B. — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:59:36 +0000

TILT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only 2 more days until they are in stock…again. Can’t believe they sold them all yesterday without my knowledge, somebody’s gonna get it.

By: mingkee

mingkee — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:18:28 +0000

N95 is open to ALL GSM carriers
N95 is open to most of UMTS carriers (except Japan and T3)
N95 works with streaming real, shoutcast (with 3rd party applications)
iPhone is dead-locked to specific carriers
iPhone battery is not removable

By: daddybear

daddybear — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:56:40 +0000

so jeff…

you thinkin you might go for the Tilt when released??

-db

cause I wasn’t sure…

By: Jeff B.

Jeff B. — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:15:20 +0000

To add to db’s comment,
Tilt, Tilt Tilt Tilt Tilt. Tilt Tilt Tilt. Tilt Tilt Tilt Tilt Tilt.
Tilt me. (coming soon to my hand, Tuesday October 9, 2007…aaawwwwwww the 9th? That’s too far away, got damnit I want it now. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

By: daddybear

daddybear — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:29:54 +0000

wow…

ok boys and girls play nice…

Anytime you involve the Iphone in a discussion you always bring out the worst in both sides.. Someone will come out and bash the IPhone for being locked down tighter than a twelve year old nun…and the IPhone supporters will come on and bash everyone else for being neanderthal and incapable of understanding the beauty of the technology and how the IPhone is a superior product.

Well here is THE TRUTH…and you can take this to the bank…

The IPhone, for all it’s faults is a really awesome device… and this from someone who doesn’t love apple and mac products…
I expect that future versions will blow everyone’s minds… I have held one in my hands and played with one and they are really cool.

That being said…

They are not the BEST cell phone ever… there is simply too much personal choice out there. Some people need 3rd party applications, and some simply like the feature set of other phones… and some people simply can’t or won’t switch to AT&T for whatever reason.

But seriously…did you expect that ONE CELL PHONE AND ONLY ONE CELL PHONE could possibly make everyone happy? Seriously? C’mon…
It will NEVER HAPPEN….

So… enjoy it if you bought one and it does what you want…and if not…

buy the one you want and use it to your hearts content… There will always be a cell phone out there that does what YOU want…

-db

but I could be wrong…

By: Jeff B.

Jeff B. — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:22:17 +0000

@jds
SHAZAAAM!!!!!!! You just “shazaamed” the nail right on the head.

By: Mike Jalkut

Mike Jalkut — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:20:57 +0000

Apple continuously draws lines in the sand inviting, or even begging, for a healthy advertising jaunt. Their OSX ads slam Microsoft. And from the beginning, from the initial announcement to the most recent, their iPhone ads slam the entire cell-phone/pda market, arrogantly challenging the competition, claiming no one yet has even come close to the lofty standard Apple will set with its ingenious new, never before thought of, magical, miraculous, marvel of monumental magnificence.

By: JOSHUA

JOSHUA — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:48:17 +0000

nimbus is a moron. Nobody here is crying – just laughing about a great ad by Nokia. I could care less about either the iPhone or the N95. I’ll stick with my BB because that’s what makes ME happy. Go be a troll somewhere else you fu(king loser.

By: jds

jds — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:45:10 +0000

@nimbus

Sheesh. Someone wake up on the wrong iSide of the apple this iMorning?

At least the N95 (pictured) is worth the cash. The iPhone isn’t. Unless you’re an apple-bot. And, it is about people being able to do what they want with the devices they own. But in apple’s case, they own you, “…works as advertised…” or not.

By: Mobile

Mobile — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:38:36 +0000

Well the Nokia N95 is $700 thats a lot of money

By: nimbus

nimbus — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:09:12 +0000

You guys are stupid crybabies. If you don’t like something, don’t get it. Simple as that. While you’re moaning about the fact that you can’t put some crapware on your phone, I’ll be enjoying the great user experience and the fact that my iPhone works as advertised.

And those that think 3rd party apps ain’t coming, wait until Leopard drops. You’ll be proven to be the whiny bitches that you are.

STFU and GTFO.

By: Jaxon

Jaxon — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:35:18 +0000

Does this mean that it can download third party apps or does it mean it is unlocked and open to all carriers (T-Mobile, Cingular, etc.)?

By: b.N

b.N — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:34:36 +0000

It’s called “aggressive competition”. If you know your product is superior, what is wrong with a tongue-in-cheek ad indirectly putting out a challenge?

Good job, Nokia. Who’s afraid of the big bad iWolf? ;0)

By: Tim

Tim — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:17:04 +0000

I’ve had the iPhone since 6/29, yesterday just bought the Tilt to try out for a while to see if I want to go back to WinMob. I’m also eyeing the US N95. The Tilt so far, is annoying me. It’s ful of features and expandability and customization. Except it still runs on windows mobile and windows mobile is high maintenance. Not that I really mind tinkering, but I got used to the ease of th iPhone. Plus, QVGA SUCKS. I never thought that when I had the 8525 last year, but now it seems very 2004. If the Tilt had VGA I might be tmepted to give it more of a shot. As of this minute, I’m thinking it’s going back to AT&T and I’m back to the iPhone.

I’ve never used Symbian. Does the N95 have a software keyboard that works well? Is it QVGA resolution or is it higher?

By: Bart

Bart — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:39:00 +0000

I’m OK with Apple keeping the iPhone closed (they care about designing all aspects of the product really well), but I also don’t think this Nokia ad is negative or doing anything bad at all. It’s smart and pointing out why their product is better. They’re not saying anything negative about the iPhone directly, just pointing out their own positives. What good advertising *should* do.

Also, if we’re going to compare these two products to open source, it’s Republicans who favor giant corporates with closed systems. They don’t want anything to do with open source and are 100% happy with their Microsoft products.

By: mingkee

mingkee — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:36:41 +0000

if N95 has AWS support, that’s 100% perfect

By: ProfessionalGun

ProfessionalGun — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:36:40 +0000

Negative advertising? I don’t see it that way at all. The message is positive – and they’ve just positioned it in an opportune way. (Our feelings regarding opportunists, aside.) A NEGATIVE ad for the Nokia Nseries might look more like this:

“STEVE JOBS doesn’t care about customer rights. APPLE wants to LOCK YOU IN to a product that takes away freedom and DICTATES the way you use it. Do you really want to be the prisoner of a greedy corporation?

Nokia Nseries. Open to Anything.

-Paid for by the Nokia committee for technological liberation.”

That would be what I’d call negative advertising.

By: M7

M7 — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:26:50 +0000

Apple+iPhone+ATT+V1.1.1 = doubleplusungood

iPhone is a great device, unfortunately Apple is just getting too greedy, it’s a shame it could have been great.

By: blah

blah — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:16:07 +0000

While I hate to admit it… if you truly want open, go with windows mobile 6 devices. HTC Tilt is the model of what a platform should be… at least until the carriers figure out how to lock it up.

By: tony

tony — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:14:21 +0000

Getting my Nokia N95-3 this week!!

By: Jack

Jack — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:10:48 +0000

The iPhone approach is useless. Still, with many complaints about the Symbian certification process, I hardly see Nokia as a model of open platforms. They even killed off OPL.

By: Galvatron

Galvatron — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:02:35 +0000

my point exactyl tnicky they alredy violated att policyech on unlocking phones if your contracts up or paid full retail for the phone you are free to call up ta carrier an request an unlock code for the device.

By: Jeff B.

Jeff B. — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:02:34 +0000

What really sucks if you have an iPhone is that it can’t compare to the N95 since the N95 is sooo much better than the iPhone but then again the Tilt rules all.
What sucks even more then that is that my store had 4 Tilts yesterday and I just went in and they were sold out. Plus no shipments til’ Tuesday. I am going to go insane.