AT&T to boost upload speeds
As people rely more and more on their cell phone to keep other people involved in their lives, upload speeds are becoming increasingly important. Video uploading, cell phone picture uploading…you name it, it’s becoming popular. Because of that, AT&T is looking to boost their upload speeds from the slow speed of 120kbps to the 500-800kbps range. While AT&T folks will rejoice at this news, it will likely only come to data cards first, like the ones we broke the story on, with handsets to follow sometime in 2008 at best. And, one must take into account that Verizon and Sprint have been on this bandwagon for quite some time now, and it’s only now that the Big Blue Globe is catching up. We applaud the attempt at upgrading HSDPA to HSUPA, AT&T, but you’ve got some more catching up to do.
Yeah. Great…. Now boy genius can you tell us what “super secret” device will be given to T-Mobile rsm’s this upcoming Monday in jersey city from htc? ….
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If EDGE speed is too slow for you just get a 3G phone. Its that simple.
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Catching up to do? What are you talking about? While their coverage isn’t quite what Verizon/Sprint’s is, their 3G speeds have ALWAYS been faster with HSDPA
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Ok 3g 101 for the people that dont understand. To Chris these phones are 3g, that uses hsdpa. The speeds they are talking about is upload speeds not download speeds. Hspda relies on edge for upload spead. Which is slow comparing to EVDO rev A (500kbps-800Kbps). To CB17 HSDPA Peaks out higher than Rev A. HSDPA peaks out around 3.6 and rev A at around 2.5. But since it backdoors on edge the speeds are never seen and the latency times sucks. Which in the real world makes EVDO looks a lot faster. Taken in to effect that 100% of verizon network is rev A campatibility and sprint is almost there. ATT is well behind.
And I totally can understand how you guys get confuse. Un like EVDO that keeps it simple with rev O and rev A. GSM 3G is really confusing cause theirs no standard for it. You have WCDMA, HSDPA, HSUPA, UMTS and all the different bands you can use with one. This is the reason why people state that CDMA is more reliable and cheaper to maintain. But since its use by most of the world, thats just one of it downside. Its to many options for it.
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Wow I didn’t know all that. Thanks for the explanation.
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Wow that was the longest post I’ve ever seen showing how someone has no idea what they’re talking about.
HSDPA doesn’t “backbone” on EDGE. I don’t even know where to begin or how to address that. All I’m gonna say is. UMTS/HSDPA upload speeds are in the mid 300s equivalent to that of EVDO. You can wiki it if you’re too stupid to believe me.
I don’t blame you for your stupidity though. If you’re name does in fact relate to where you live I simply blame the school systems in place in the southeast region of the US, which seem to be on par with that of a 3rd world country. Here’s my Blog Commenting 101 for you today. If you’re gonna post something on a public site, make sure it’s not gonna make you look like an idiot first.
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I WOULD like to clarify though, that when you’re not in a 3G ATT area you do FALL BACK to EDGE which would give you the speeds mentioned in the article. But then that would be like EVDO falling back to 1XRTT and you don’t even want me to tell you what THOSE speeds are compared to EDGE. You’d shut up in a heartbeat.
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Cb17 - let me guess…you’re an elitist from the northeast? Perhaps a whackadoodle from out west? Here’s Blog Commenting 102…hurling insults based on geographic location and user name is stupid and only serves to make you look like a bigger jackass. Go somewhere else.
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Yeah, a lot of work ahead. As evidenced by yesterday’s AT&T EDGE vs. WiFi piece…
What a joke. Stop hating.
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I live in Georgia…that’s how I know. But thanks for playing.
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CB17 Your the dumb one everyone knows HSDPA relies on edge for upload. Thats why they came out with the update. And yes EVDO rev O relied on 1x for uploads. But since its Rev A its not the same. Rev A uses 1x only when your not in a evdo area for upload speeds. But when you are in a EVDO it does no rely on it, unlike hsdpa which has to rely on edge even when your in a 3g area. Thats what the article is stating. And dont ever state anything from wikipedia. Since you want to be a genius, read the article before you let something come out your mouth. Its about UPLOAD speeds, not DOWNLOAD, 300kbps is not fast in the real world its around 100-250. Which is the speed of EDGE. So call cingular and ask them and get your heart broken. I dont know what im talking, I just do this for a living…..
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@downsouth
If you do this for a living, someone is getting really ripped off. First of all, EDGE upload speeds don’t come anywhere NEAR 100-250. Those numbers are for DOWNLOAD and they’re more like 150-250 with medium to full bars.
As for actual real world upload speeds on an HSDPA enhanced 3G network. I can REAL WORLD tell you that before my super awesome iPhone, I used to have a medium awesome 8525 that many times got me better speeds than I had with Comcast (mid 300s). I actually had to use my phone a lot for internet because Comcast was always going down and it always amazed me how much faster my upload speeds were. Damn Comcast.
But anyways, you’re precious EVDO’s upload speeds wasn’t even AS FAST as HSPDA’s until Rev. A, but the download speeds on HSPDA are STILL faster. Check your facts, then come back and talk. If you think Wiki is so wrong, why don’t you cite some articles OTHER than this one to prove your point.
Could I get a little backup BG?
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Oh and I forgot to comment once again on how HSDPA doesn’t rely on EDGE for uploads. That doesn’t even make any sense. 2 completely different data technologies. Just like EVDO Rev. 0 doesn’t rely 1XRTT for uploads.
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I thought I’d provide some proof. 384 up and I as I and I’m sure anyone else here who uses Cingular can tell you, those CAN be real world speeds (depending on signal strength). So sit down and shut up.
http://www.option.com/products/globetrotter_hsdpa.shtml
http://www.sierrawireless.com/resources/product/AirCard%20875%20Datasheet%20sept05.pdf
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O I should have known you own a Iphone. That explains everything. It relies on edge not 100% but it does thats why your upload speed is so slow. The point is its slow. And I dont care how fast it is the latency time sucks, so it defeats the purpose of being fast. Thats the point of HSUPA. I have both verizon and att aircards cause i get the service for 20 dollars a month. I now live in houston, which verizon coverage make att look like a joke. I drove down to galveston bay and verizon had that covered also.I cross the ferry and in the water i was getting 1mb downloads. I would keep going back and forward with you. But since you have a iphone, I know i cant tell you any better. So keep your iphone while att upgrades to hsupa and see how dumb u feel.
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Why don’t you try going to dslreports.com/speedtest to see for yourself how fast ATT’s latency on 3G is since you HAVE a card. I can tell you that I HAVE tested myself and it’s almost always around and sometimes lower than 100ms which is AMAZING. That’s almost as fast as Cable. Nothing latent about that.
I won’t disagree with you though on coverage (as I stated above)…for now…
As for my iPhone, like I said, I switched from an 8525, and it’s awesome. I NEVER look back. Best phone EVER, even with EDGE, which Wifi definitely makes up for.
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^^ Somebody sure is cranky. Don’t you have anything else to do? Go have your sippy cup or take a nap.
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Sounds almost like a my d*ck’s bigger than your’s discussion.
Either way, whether HSPDA or HSPA or EVDO Rev A, B or whatever… we all benefit by having the carriers push the envelope.
AT HSUPA speeds I could almost justify dumping my DSL 6mbs service and just use my aircard.
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… Funny debate. if you are getting 100ms latency you are either inside the cell tower or that is wrong lol. Regardless ATT 3G coverage is a joke. In my experience there edge latency is like a second and there 3G maybe 500-600 ms. Not to mention they cant hand off from 3G to non 3G towers and just drop the call. Probably why they dropped the “fewest dropped calls” from there adverts.
If you to dslreports you can see the speeds of the carriers http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?results=1. its easy to see that realworld verizon and sprint are faster. Faster better coverage…. Better call quality… Why am I with att? lol Funny I dont see a 100ms on there.
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downsouth821: Man, you’re full of bullshite. Why not attack CB17’s hard data and better understanding that WCDMA’s air-interface is totally incompatible with GSM’s so it’s impossible to have EDGE upload instead of just making yourself look more like a tool?
Ever heard of asymmetric data channels and speeds? Did you know HSDPA is to UMTS as EDGE is to GPRS? Go educate yourself on the Wiki pages.
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@Paul
My tests were with an 8525 tethered to a computer. I’ve done them multiple times. I’m not saying that it’s universal, but, at the very least, clearly possible. And for the record I was NOT inside the cell tower. Actually that would make it worse, sooo….
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Here in Louisville Kentucky I’m getting a latency of 94 ms. A download speed of 804 Kb/s. An upload speed of 432 Kb/s. And that is with AT&T’s 3g connection on a Novatel Merlin U73O modem.
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