iTunes 7.4.1 shows up, adds ringtone ability
Well…Apple is still making steps towards the things that people wish the iPhone would’ve come up with at launch. Yesterday, iTunes 7.4.1 became available for download, and not only adds ringtone creation, but also adds sync ability with the new versions of iPod (new Nano, Classic, and Touch). This does undo the previous trick of adding your own ringtones, but if you are that disappointed, there is a fix for even this new version. Here’s the full scoop:
With iTunes 7.4, sync your favorite music and more with the new iPod nano (third generation), iPod classic, and iPod touch, plus create custom ringtones exclusively for iPhone with many of your favorite songs purchased from the iTunes Store. You can now also play purchased videos with closed captioning (when available), easily rate your favorite albums from one to five stars, and watch videos at a larger size inside the iTunes window.
wait so does that mean an iPhone update has come out? Also, has anyone traded a 4gb iPhone for an 8 instead of the whole $100 gift card thing? Thnx,
JHH483
no the iphone update is not out yet. They said it would be by the end of the month. this was just an iTunes update.
nope idon’t evenbother buying one im suprised the Cult hold hasn’t boken yet it’s like palm you keep trying to impress wen youv’e failed also with NBC universa nolonger providing new content Tacked with palls policy of forcing you to re buy songs if your ipod,extenal hard drive crashes. apple next ipod should be called the Foleio
and leave it to apple to charge you more for songs you already bought to use them as a ringtone. . .
they dont own the rights to the songs, they dont make the choice on charging you for the ring-tones, the record companies do.
Gal, D for spelling on that one, guess your regressing. F for content, nothing really comparable between Palm and Apple.
Qno the record companis have no control over apples prcing model silly why do you think they are seling pringles um er ringles?
An yes test apple an palm do have somthing incommin propitary brands that suck by reinventing the wheel an puting 4 coats of wax on to makit look shiney an sellit to you for 3 time what it’s actually worth test you get an A for being an stuck up grammar nazi. If all you do in life is insult people like me may its’ tim to find a real woman an not a blow up doll.
Just to clear things up.
Having to pay for ringtones is a choice from apple, has nothing to do with record companies (the right holders) or copyright legislation.
When you legally own a song and move it to your cellphone setting the phone to use such file for incoming calls does not require additional rights.
Trust me I am an IP lawyer.
Ringles are a pricing scheme apple chooses to adopt, and that is enforce because Apple controls the hardware (aka iPhone); record companies could NEVER force this on Apple or consumers beacuse it would have no foothold in copyright law. For this same reason the iTunes 7.4 which allowed users to make their own ring tones was not infringing any copyright at all.
Sorry to brake the Apple Fanclub bubble…but you are getting ripped off.
im a wuss u all know that
Hah that’s real cut sombody using my handle cause they can’t deal (test 4577) also ringles ar not apples idea theyare nbc universal musics concept.
i have no need to try to be you. I would rather not even pretend to stoop to your level.
Engadget –
“Judging from the fact that the iTMS EULA prohibits the use of downloaded files as ringtones, we’d say it’s more than likely because Apple’s contracts with the various labels represented in the iTMS specifically forbid it. We haven’t seen them, but we’d bet that ringtones — and the licenses for using songs as ringtones — have their own lengthy section in Apple’s contracts, and that Apple isn’t allowed to sell files for use as ringtones without coughing up more dough. Steve has said as much, after all. Otherwise the selection would include more than just the 500,000 songs you can get right now.”
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/07/know-your-rights-is-it-illegal-to-make-my-own-ringtones/
They explain the situation better than I. Apple is not right but they are not solely to blame as you naive apple bashers would make people think.
Hey Gal, Apple makes very little from the music, they make money from hardware.
AT, you proved your knowledge by not knowing what a ringle actually is.
Okay, so is this feature turned on yet or not? I just downloaded and still can’t figure out how to use this friggin’ thing.
not turned on yet as far i have seen and read.
@Test 5477
Am I missing something here????
I am going to quote from the page YOU linked:
“But I just want to make ringtones from the music I already legally own.
As long as you’re talking about music you’ve ripped from a CD, go ahead — no one’s trying to stop you. Since making a ringtone doesn’t count as a derivative work, you’re not infringing any copyrights. Just don’t sell or distribute anything, and you should be fine. Funny how this piece of advice keeps coming up, eh?”
That is EXACTLY what i said in my first post.
There after:
“We’re still not exactly happy with Apple’s decision to lock out the consumer like this. For example, why can’t we use our own GarageBand compositions as ringtones? We obviously own the rights to music we create. But we can certainly see why the labels would insist on pricing ringtone rights separately, since it’s such big business.”
So COME AGAIN pls? I will say it once again, record companies have NO possible way to stop you from using music you legally own as a ringtone.
Apple on the other hand CAN, because they can lock the hardware in such way. Of course if Apple decides to sell ringtones, they have to give money to the right holders.
The logic here is that Apple sells ringtones THEREFORE they need contracts with record comapanies.
If Apple allowed people to use their music as ringtones record companies could not say a thing about it; the minute Apple decide to make EXTRA money ripping consumers off on rintones…then the record companies get their cut as well.
Heck you can do that with RIM hardware load whatever file you want on be it .mp3 or WMA ans set it as a phone tone Rim is more open than appls os> would you no agre at that apple fanboysrefuse to admit that they have be ripped off/taken but then denial kicks in,
“oh steve jobs is our leader he would ever rip us of even if he did we belev it to be the greater good”
AT,
Its what you make the ringtone from that matter. Ituunes contracts with labels require additonal fees.
The articles says if you rips music from CDs or othe non Itunes stuff then its all OK. Thats the difference.
Your wrong about the money factor, Apple could not do it for free as the article says. They cannot do any rintone without charging.
Why are folks like Galvatron, who really shouldn’t be allowed near devices meant for communication considering he’s so bad at it, give a crap as to what phone other people use? How can you accuse everyone else of being fanboys when you come across like a 15 year old declaring that your favorite comic book character can kick everyone else’s ass? Dude, no one cares. You don’t like iPhones? Good thing you didn’t buy one then.
And really – learn to type. A monkey with a BlackBerry would have spelled more words correctly than you by accident.
@test 5477
I will try one more time explaining it to you, I believe in good faith I am not getting my point across.
Option #1
(This is the business model ALL the phone manufaturers adopt)
-Manufacturer makes a CellPhone
-They make the device so that the user can use any sound file they legally own as a ringtone.
-The consumer uses what ever legal sound source he wants and makes his ringtones.
-CellManufacturer does not make extra money from ringtones.
Option #2
(Apple business model)
-Apple makes the iPhone
-The iPhone is designed so that for custom ringtones the consumer can only use specific files that ONLY Apple sells.
-Apple sells ringtones for X ammount of money. The record companies decide their cut on each song sold as a ring tone.
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Now Apple adopted option #2, they locked the iPhone and decided that consumers would have to buy ringtones from them if they wanted to use custom songs. Of course record companies make money on top of that.
All the other phone manufactures say “if you own a song…then use it as a ringtone all you want”.
How can you say that Apple is not ripping you off???!!! You do realize that NO OTHER cell manufacturer locks the consumer on the ringtone issue???!!! ALL the other cell manufacturers allow you to make your own ringtones…it’s a standard; any mp3 I have loaded on my Nokia E90 I can use as a ringtone. Apple blocks that option and you people say “oh it’s the record comapanies fault”.
The issue is not about Apple chargin X or Y for ringtones. It’s the fact that on an iPhone you can’t use your own MP3s as a ringtone even though there is no legal obstacle; you buy a song from Apple…and they don’t let you use it as a ringtone on an iPhone….but you can take that SAME song and use it as a ringtone on a Nokia.
HENCE you are getting ripped off.
I hope this is cler enough.
AT,
Incorrect. No one is getting ripped off. Wanna know why? Because adults have the ability to choose whether or not to purchase a given device or service. If you find it’s important enough to use different MP3’s, then you pay the price.
I’m so tired of people whining about being ripped off as though it’s some right to own these devices and use these services. Grow up already.
AT, get over yourself if you want some other phone then go get it no one is forcing you like Ross says.
What you are not getting-
Apple has contracts with the Record Labels. In those contracts they set how those songs can be used. If used in other ways other than the ipod use then it requires other forms of payment. Apple then is required by these companies to make sure that if a song is being used as a ringtone then it must be compensated by the end user.
This is why their is only 500K songs that Apple can now use as ringtones as the others, they do not have rights or ability contractually to see or give away as ringtones. Its intelectual property.
Apple as the #1 onling music retailer has to maintain its good staning with labels and due to the volume of sales they are watched by the labels. If Nokia begins moving millions of songs through their online retail site then they will be forced to use the same structure. Also, I doubt legally that any phone manufacturer says “If you own it then use it as a ringtone”. Go ahead and prove me wrong, but it entirely depends on their media rights contract if they have a music store.
I agree with your message that we shouldnt have to pay for ringtones but you blaming apple is only half the story. Apple as I have said is not in a position to say OK your whatever you want for your ringtones.
And again, you griping about this is getting old, just stay with your E90 (good phone) if this bothers you soo much.
Stop your bickering and go download it already, it is out now. (My computer just asked me if I wanted to get it.)