HTC Kaiser Unboxing
Remember the exciting news from last evening? Here it is! As you can imagine, we’ve seen our share of devices here at BGR, and I personally have combed through almost all. Let’s start it off like this…the HTC Kaiser is the best darn Pocket PC I have ever used! It really has everything you have come to expect nowadays. For instance, it’s a full Pocket PC running Windows Mobile 6 Professional, which we prefer over the smartphone bastard child. Detailed internal specs include quad-band EDGE, tri-band UMTS/HSDPA, a 3 megapixel autofocus camera, integrated GPS, WiFI, Bluetooth, a full QWERTY ‘board, and a unique option that lets you tilt the screen to have it sit on your desk perfectly aimed at you. The Kaiser comes in a little thinner than the HTC TyTN, and a tad bit thicker than the HTC P4350, which at the end of the day doesn’t make that much of a difference. The only possible downside at all I could find is that the HTC Kaiser could shave a few ounces off its weight. Nothing to get excited over though! Build quality is fantastic, and the GPS works extremely well. In addition, the 3 megapixel shooter takes wonderful photographs. The general public (sorry guys) should expect the full commercial release around October of this year. I am so going to be the cool kid on the block for a good couple months. Because I’m so in love with this device, we’ll get a little more detailed in this mini-review and walk through, check the rest of the HTC Kaiser’s highlights after the jump, or if you prefer skip right to the full unboxing gallery below! In addition, we give the HTC Kasier, our most coveted 5 BG award.
UPDATE: Who is up for some good news? After talking with my source again regarding the HTC Kaiser, I questioned him in detail about the release. He got an update from HTC saying that this will actually ship in late July, not October! The HTC Shift should be out in October. Take this as you will, but it’s lookin’ better and better for everyone by the minute!
Click on over to see the hotness that is the HTC Kaiser, unboxed of course!
Something we can be appreciative of, is the Kaiser’s RAM, 128MB of it. 75MB are usable to the user for programs. Incredible! We also have 256MB of ROM as well built right in. HTC has integrated an application called Hubdog which I believe should work on various Pocket PCs. This is a RSS feed reader, podcast downloader, and even a mini blog publishing tool built right in! Right now it looks like it only supports Blogger at the moment, but hopefully that will change. As you’ll see from the shots in the unboxing gallery, the HTC Kaiser has a little raised part on the battery cover which says GPS. Not only does this help keep your device from directly touching the surface you rest it on, it also provides just enough space in between the surface and the speaker, to let some of those music waveforms really shine. How is the speaker you ask? Extremely loud and crisp! On screen the device has a constant "H" by the network status bar indicating that HSDPA is in full effect! If you’re not the daring type, HTC even gives you the option under settings to turn HSDPA off. Something featured on the HTC TyTN, that did not make it onto the HTC P4350 has reappeared on the Kaiser, and that is a scroll wheel. It is smaller and a little more refined than the TyTN’s and does an excellent job at navigating. I really can’t express how this phone has surprised me in more ways than one. If I find some other tasty tidbits, you best believe I’ll update this post!
On May 24, 2007 @ 12:15 pm, CB Said:
October??????
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On May 24, 2007 @ 12:19 pm, Adam Said:
Nice! Any word on whether it has (or will have) BlackBerry Connect software installed???
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On May 24, 2007 @ 12:20 pm, TriiippT Said:
Any clue as to yet who might be the carrier? This phone leaves me lusting over it….maybe your review helps but if it IS all you make it out to be….I can’t wait for October.
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On May 24, 2007 @ 12:35 pm, MarvOne Said:
The 3G should be your clue that its going to drop on AT&T, unless I am wrong about T Mobile not launching their 3G service anytime soon since they are on the UMA push
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On May 24, 2007 @ 12:35 pm, Robert Said:
Sounds Great, Does the 256 rom improve the battery life over the 8525? I was looking to upgrade my 8700c to the 8525: when I stumbled upon some kaiser info. I guess I will be waiting until October? OUCH!! I am guessing the price will be around 600$
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On May 24, 2007 @ 12:38 pm, Pedro Said:
Totally off topic, but since you seem to ahead of the sites in terms of release dates I’d love to know when Verizon Wireless will release the Treo 755P. Thanks!
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On May 24, 2007 @ 12:38 pm, Sam Said:
Really, the true question is how does this guy keep getting these devices……….
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On May 24, 2007 @ 12:41 pm, MarvOne Said:
Yo BG does this mean your done using that 8300?
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On May 24, 2007 @ 12:44 pm, dc/dc Said:
This makes me sad in the pants.
I was expecting something more exciting.
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On May 24, 2007 @ 12:44 pm, John Said:
Why October?
For all intensive purposes, this device is expected to launch in the summer. What will happen is that you can buy and HTC Kaiser in June and it will be an unlocked un-subsidized version. What BoyGenius unboxed there, looks like a full retail version. I bet these are in a factory somehwere getting ready to be shipped all over the world. What big conference is there in June? HTC will announce and immediately start selling the 630 and Kaiser in June, and are hoping to feed off/steal some of the iPhone thunder.
AT&T will probably launched in October and branded as an 8725 or something along those lines.
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On May 24, 2007 @ 1:02 pm, Rob Stevens Said:
“For all intensive purposes …”
Oh, for the love of … The phrase is “for all intents and purposes”. I really don’t understand why people keep getting that wrong!
I think the Kaiser is going to be a killer device, but I don’t think any carrier in the US will get it. AT&T is probably going to focus on the iPhone in order to make the most of that relationship with Apple, and if they get the Kaiser at all, it’ll be a bit later. T-Mobile doesn’t have their 3G network up yet, and even when they do, the Kaiser doesn’t support 1700MHz. Really, this phone has everything except for an easy way into the market! Hopefully I’m wrong about AT&T and they’ll realize that the Kaiser could be the marquee Business device while the iPhone can be the Consumer device.
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On May 24, 2007 @ 1:05 pm, Robert Said:
I don’t think I can wait until October. I am thinking about buying it unlocked: can anyone clue me in on the downside to this decision? Do I keep my service and insert my sim card? If cingular is getting this and the iphone that would tie up alot of the end user and buisiness user. Am I the only person with no interest in the Iphone?
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On May 24, 2007 @ 1:28 pm, Daniel Said:
I highly doubt Cingular will be carrying this anytime soon. Ofcourse the device will be released this year unlocked and/or through other carriers, but to replace their own 8525 within 6 months would be highly unlikely.
Chances are once the device comes out it’ll easily ask for around $800+ unlocked for atleast the first month. Will be worth it though.
Let us know the rest of the specs when you get a chance TBG!! Uses the same processor / and video chip as the TYTN?
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On May 24, 2007 @ 1:33 pm, Arlen Said:
Any chance of a video review??? Thanks
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On May 24, 2007 @ 1:40 pm, OldBluetooth Said:
I think BGR needs me to take ALL of his pics of future equipment. You lose too much detail. One might think you are using the camera in your phone. So that your readership gets a REAL look, you send me the new devices and I will take professional pics of them. How about it BGR? Hey well I can try can’t I. I still look for the holy grail of phones, and this one lists most everything. Now how is the voice quality? That is where some of these super phones really fall short, I mean they are supposed to be phones first, PDA’s second, Media, third, etc
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On May 24, 2007 @ 1:58 pm, J Said:
does the camera have a flash?
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On May 24, 2007 @ 2:17 pm, andi Said:
nice how they god enough RAM in this and all the radios
it’s really idiotic how business, mail and browsing-oriented devices can have such bad screens today.. how the hell can you sell a device with a screen this big and only QVGA resolution?..
CPU data, battery data? c’mon, pls
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On May 24, 2007 @ 2:23 pm, Victor Atehortua Said:
Very nice BG, so now this seems to be a very useful device and could quite possibly be the end all device for many, until two weeks from now they drop another beauty, that will help push, we hope, the cost of data plans down. Now for the idea that ATT will realease this one, it seems hard although possible since they will need something that will reach into the pockets of the business user. I still have a hard time assuming the iPhone will dominate as much as people expect it to.
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On May 24, 2007 @ 3:09 pm, Jeff Said:
I bet this thing makes it out on AT&T around November-December, which would give the 8525 a full 12 months on the market.
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On May 24, 2007 @ 3:10 pm, trainman Said:
I’ve just got to ask this question…is it SDHC compliant? I can see ditching my Zen to truly have one device to rule them all. If so, October is a LONG way off and I don’t think I can make it. BTW, I look forward to a full review to satiate my gadget lust.
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On May 24, 2007 @ 3:47 pm, URPREY Said:
Yes - I was right! Love it. There are several on eBay right now also. Any pics with a TyTN/8525?
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On May 24, 2007 @ 7:06 pm, Brad Said:
There are several on eBay? Where??
Can you provide any of the item numbers?
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On May 24, 2007 @ 8:25 pm, Leo Said:
I agree with dc/dc, but it is kinda sexi. . .
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On May 24, 2007 @ 11:02 pm, sarisffuddin Said:
the new hotness!! ..can’t wait till october ..love my dopod 838 pro.. but gonna love the kaiser more me think!
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On May 25, 2007 @ 12:18 am, Michael Said:
Got me one on eBay
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On May 25, 2007 @ 1:25 am, Christopher Woods Said:
Oh hot damn! October, my birthday’s in that month… Here’s hoping that T-Mobile offer this handset in the UK, then I can upgrade for my birthday
:D 
:D
I REALLY WANT THIS HANDSET! hahaha. ‘Stuck’ with the Hermes for the rest of the year, oh how awful.
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On May 25, 2007 @ 6:05 am, Васятка из Рашшы Said:
А чё вы так перепугались то? Октобер октобер… У нас он вообще наверно к следующему году только выйдет, так что вам ещё повезло.
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On May 25, 2007 @ 6:24 am, Teun Said:
Can you try to figure out what kind of GPS is in there? Is it a SIRF-III or is the Qualcomm like in the HTC Trinity?
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On May 25, 2007 @ 6:30 am, Васятка из Рашшы Said:
Там SIRF-III стоит вроде как, надеемся так и будя к релизу.
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On May 25, 2007 @ 7:27 am, E@zyVG Said:
This is definitely going to be a replacement phone for my HTC Artemis, by the end of this year.
I wonder how Kaiser’s Qualcomm CPU compares to that of it’s competitors, such as Samsung 400Mhz and PXA series.
Also, it would have been nice to add VGA resolution to this device.
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On May 25, 2007 @ 8:44 am, Brad Said:
Anyone want to sell?
I will pay $1200 happily for one of these!
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On May 25, 2007 @ 12:06 pm, Ken Z Said:
Hey, quick question: what I _don’t_ see that my Tytn does have is an external GSM antenna port. With my Tytn, I can hook in an external powered antenna to rock the range while in the car. This looks like that port is gone. That would be sad… So, does it have it?
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On May 25, 2007 @ 12:33 pm, Juice Said:
Hey BG you better start spilling some info on this thing. It’s your duty! Like give us some pic examples taken with it and does it have the panorama mode like in the Advantage. Also give us battery life and post some videos of the screen sliding/tilting! And hurry up will ya!
Of course we all know this is pre-prod so we won’t hold anyone to anything we just want media.
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On May 25, 2007 @ 1:08 pm, Dave Said:
Seriously, if this thing doesn’t have SDHC and a competent CPU this will be nothing but another HTC Tragedy. The lack of VGA I can grudgingly overlook as it seems hardly anyone is looking to make that standard even for high end units.
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On May 25, 2007 @ 1:38 pm, John Said:
Agreed Dave,
From now on the next thing for these devices is to have VGA output or atleast a dongle to provide VGA output, with the endgoal being that this replace a laptop on the road.
What would really be super sweet. I would carry a Kaiser 2 (with VGA output and extra batteries rather than a laptop.) There is a company that has VGA out, but I can’t see to remember where the review was about their upcoming product.
The advangate is to big to big, as it still needs to be a phone
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On May 25, 2007 @ 1:52 pm, Stephane Dufault Said:
BG, thanks for the primer, keep the info coming, like the MSRP
What kind of wired headset is included? How good is:
Voice through mono headphone?
voice pickup through headphone mic?
Music through stereo headphone?
Like to know if I need to consider the price of another headset…
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On May 25, 2007 @ 2:02 pm, URPREY Said:
@Brad - here was the link. It’s ended already…
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290119898443
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On May 25, 2007 @ 3:53 pm, Christopher Said:
BG needs to post some pictures of that funky tilted slide mechanism from the back and sides already! I’m fed up with just from-the-front pictures, I want to see how it works! (with macro shots!)
The PDADB.net site is VERY useful for gleaning just about all of the tech specs for this phone (including comparing it with rivals such as the Hermes) - check this link: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=733&id2=462
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On May 25, 2007 @ 5:00 pm, Brad Said:
Thanks Urprey.
I thought the Kaiser was the P4550? The eBay ad shows it as a 3300?
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On May 25, 2007 @ 5:16 pm, linksavage Said:
And I was happy with my 8525 until I read this!!!
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On May 25, 2007 @ 6:06 pm, JohnH_in_USA Said:
I heard yesterday from a US T-Mobile dealer that T-Mobile is ready to roll out their HSDPA network by the end of the summer -nationwide.
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On May 25, 2007 @ 8:11 pm, Loj Said:
I need this phone its just what i was lookin for in a phone…….im beasting
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On May 25, 2007 @ 11:05 pm, johnny Said:
Wow. Looks great. The only thing from my list of the top phone these days is a VGA screen.
See Sprint needs to forget the 6800 and get this. Because I tell you come October if I will Choose even ATT and leave sprint for this phone. (Not the iPhone but this yes) and there are many other business users that will too.
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On May 26, 2007 @ 3:37 am, Nalsii Said:
I don’t see why would anyone want a 2.8″ VGA display. Also, VGA devices seem to require faster CPUs and therefore have higher power consumption, which in my opinion is pretty contradictory to the tendency of using low-power-consuming, all-in-one integrated chips like OMAP or Qualcomm in phone devices. A VGA output would have been nice, though…
Hopefully BG will add some info on the CPU, as Kaiser is the first (and only - yet) device with this particular processor (according to pdadb.net).
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On May 26, 2007 @ 8:28 am, BrianC Said:
I also don’t think having VGA at such a small screen is a good idea. But I would like to have VGA output so that I can carry this device to a meeting room for presentation to data projector. That would be very cool!
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On May 26, 2007 @ 8:43 am, Dave Said:
It’s that kind of willingness to accept mediocrity that’s responsible for the dominance QVGA still has. If you can’t figure out what good a VGA screen would do, then what’s the point of even explaining it.
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On May 26, 2007 @ 9:32 pm, Alt Said:
Cool !!! but how about FM Radio? HSUPA?
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On May 26, 2007 @ 10:26 pm, Christopher Said:
The Kaiser supports HSUPA.
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On May 27, 2007 @ 4:33 am, Nalsii Said:
I don’t mean to flame or something, but I do own both a VGA and a QVGA device, and I’m convinced that a 3.5″ screen (like that of a loox N560) is pretty much the smallest screen size a VGA may find a reasonable use on. Even if I were wrong, I still think that the advantages of the use of a VGA on a device like the Kaiser simply cannot outweigh the disadvantages.
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On May 27, 2007 @ 9:33 am, Noel Said:
Could you post the version of you rom Boy Genius
I have two Kaisers both have the same roms.
Rom Version - 0.92.00.00
Rom Date 04/20/07
Radio Version 0.26.01.20B
Protocol Version 22.29.64.00.b_N
Regards
Noel
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On May 27, 2007 @ 10:47 am, Loj Said:
hey noel wanna sell one of them……
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On May 27, 2007 @ 3:20 pm, Matt Buono Said:
Don’t forget, this has USB2.0 which is a big help with file xfer’s to and from your notebook. Good stuff!
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On May 27, 2007 @ 6:20 pm, Chris Said:
I hope it does not have that horrible CPU/ATI chips that I have in TyTN. CPU too slow, video acceleration is a joke.
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On May 27, 2007 @ 9:33 pm, Brad Said:
I’ll offer $1600 for one! Message me if you want to sell.
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On May 28, 2007 @ 12:04 am, Matt Buono Said:
The Kaiser has the MSM7200 which is the same chipset that is in the Telus P4000 with the only difference being the WCDMA/HSUPA radio instead of the CDMA2000/EV-DO.
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On May 28, 2007 @ 5:34 am, david Said:
does anyone know what the max capacity of external memory is?
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On May 28, 2007 @ 5:16 pm, George Said:
Does the camera has FLASH?
I will be disappointed if it does not
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On May 28, 2007 @ 8:24 pm, Christopher Said:
For all the tech specs about the Kaiser, go to pdadb.net and look up its entry (HTC Kaiser).
I’ve already posted a link to it (compared against the Hermes) in an earlier comment above, just read up to find it.
Yes the camera has flash, and it’ll be just as bad as the ‘flashes’ which have been on the previous HTC models. In many respects it’s almost identical to the Hermes (which I own), and the flash on that is awful.
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On May 28, 2007 @ 8:30 pm, Kevin Elliott Said:
Yay! GPS finally! OK I need this phone now. I beat up next my 8525, so instead of buying yet another 8525, I want this!
Who’s selling?
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On May 29, 2007 @ 5:38 am, SBO Said:
Hi,
Have tested the 3D possibilities, call of duty 2 for example?
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On May 29, 2007 @ 6:04 am, Job Said:
I knew the machine comes with the MSM7200, but is the HSUPA S/W enabled already? or some brilliant ppl has to do their magic once again, as to the Trinity’s GPS? Could someone please tell me? thx
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On May 29, 2007 @ 11:29 pm, cali Said:
Dear God man! Give us some more details about the device already!
Videos, thoughts, ANYTHING!!!
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On May 30, 2007 @ 8:21 am, Ruination Said:
I actually found a knowledgable TMob rep that told me that ther are debuting thie 3g network “fourth-quarter 2007″ in which he said that that meant most likely near the end of it circa Oct-Dec. This is probably why i think AT&T will get in July and T-Mobile will get it in October. TM always seems to lag behind in those things. Rep also confirmed the sad new of no wm6 updates for MDA. He did however hint at an entire new line of 3g phones. (Even he told me to pass on the Wing!) Hope this helps!
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On May 30, 2007 @ 8:25 am, y@nn Said:
ohhhhh I cann’t wait too!
Is july for europe or just for the US?
How is it possible that some models are already sold on internet, ebay, strange I would say…
Video review would be nice, yeah…any problems with software compatibility?and does it work with tomtom?
I can’t wait to try it
Thks for the nice preview BTW
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On May 31, 2007 @ 6:23 pm, Anita Said:
it is available for pre order for 799 at elite-electronix. The ship date says july 11 2007
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On Jun 1, 2007 @ 4:05 am, pc101 Said:
[drool] Oh my! Forget the iPhone I want this! I was waiting to switch to cingular when the iPhone came out (long time Apple user here) but it looks like I’ll have to wait a couple weeks longer than that for this phone.
At least that will be time to compare the two. In particular the Apple iPhone because it is a somewhat unknown quantity. My current phone is a Palm Treo 700w so the HTC Kaiser should be same old Windows Mobile(a plus for once).
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On Jun 1, 2007 @ 10:26 pm, yoeri Said:
any news on the battery life. my k-jam does 4-5 days on standby. how long will the kaiser do on one charge
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On Jun 2, 2007 @ 8:18 am, funcionando Said:
the qualcomm that the kaiser has inside is really a “dual core” processor.
One for 3d acceleration (4 times more powerful than the intel 2700g….) and one for general purposes.
So this machine is going to be a next step in what a ppc refers to.
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On Jun 3, 2007 @ 5:41 am, George Said:
I dont put high hope on battery life considering all the features.
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On Jun 4, 2007 @ 12:03 am, Robert Said:
I viewed the iphone ads and I am not impressed at all.The iphone seems to be for media and amusement. I look at the specs on the Kaiser and I see something that can enhance both my business and private worlds. I do acknowledge the innovation contained in the iphone but I think the audience it will appeal to won’t be able to afford it. Kaiser=value,iphone = novelty.
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On Jun 4, 2007 @ 5:25 am, cali Said:
HTC should look at the iPhone launch date quite seriously…
Lets get this thing onto the streets by July at the very latest!!!
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On Jun 4, 2007 @ 2:33 pm, George Said:
Me too, iPhone is not for me. No 3G = No phone.
Btw, when will Boy Genius update this review?
I am waiting and waiting every day.
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On Jun 5, 2007 @ 4:48 pm, Jarjar Said:
I am waiting for this phone for a long time now. First I wanted to go with the Eten M700 but they didn’t release it in Switzerland due to the bugs it has/had.
What makes me a little nervous is that they keep announcing new phones on the HTC-Website (HTC Touch, never heard before) but no information on the Kaiser… :-/
US$ 799 wouldn’t be so bad for the Kaiser…
Thought it would be more.
Regards,
Jarjar
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On Jun 5, 2007 @ 7:18 pm, MACMAC Said:
As much as I love the Kaiser, you can’t say “Kaiser = value” because this thing is going to be VERY expensive once it hits the streets. It will easily retail for $800USD, much like the TYTN originally did.
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On Jun 5, 2007 @ 8:36 pm, Christopher Woods Said:
That might be so, but in September 2006 (when I commenced my current contract with T-Mobile, which I’ve got with a Hermes) I paid just £65 (down from £80) for the actual handset and my 18 month contract is only £20 (though I have a £7.50 a month addon for unlimited data).
That’s hardly expensive at all really, given the handset. I expect to see the Kaiser being sold through TM for a pretty reasonable price soon after it goes on sale OEM - the guy in the shop said they usually get the new handsets a couple of months after they retail OEM, so things are looking up.
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On Jun 6, 2007 @ 7:29 am, y@nn Said:
hey Jarjar,
I’m also from Switzerland, the kaiser should come in July,cant say early or late, but I got the answers from the importer, so Im also quiet nervous, 6 month that I’m waiting…and at the same time, some others are bringing new software, tomtom 7, so it will be very nice to enjoy all this with the new machine!
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On Jun 6, 2007 @ 2:06 pm, George Said:
TomTom 7?
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On Jun 7, 2007 @ 9:41 am, y@nn Said:
Tomtom Navigator 7 ist the new version who will be on the new GO 520 / 720, will be in July on the market, so I assume also available for the PPC user
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On Jun 7, 2007 @ 2:09 pm, George Said:
Why there is no ESC button in the keyboard?
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On Jun 7, 2007 @ 4:16 pm, Jarjar Said:
@y@nn
Hey, thank you for the good news! Didn’t know about TomTom 7 either. Hope it will work with the Kaiser then
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On Jun 8, 2007 @ 11:21 am, Raptor Said:
No say it isn’t so. This is/was my next phone. It has a QuallComm chipset in it and if things stay the way they are they will be banned in the US. That $800.00+ price tag is looking not so bad now.
Raptor
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On Jun 9, 2007 @ 1:39 am, Gadgetjunkie Said:
PDAdb.net and softpedia.com both have detailed specs posted, but there are several differences in the details:
Qualcom 384 MHz chipset vs. Samsung 400 MHz
RAM 128MB vs. 64MB
Camera Flash vs. No Flash
Battery 1350mAh vs. 1500mAh
Can Boy Genius clear up the anomolies?
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On Jun 9, 2007 @ 1:55 am, Gadgetjunkie Said:
For anyone interested another couple of highly specced units (HSDPA,WM6,GPS etc..)to be released soon are Samsung F700 and Eten Glofish X800. Neither have a qwerty keyboard, although the Glofish qwerty version is to be unveiled soon. Use Google to look up the specs.
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On Jun 9, 2007 @ 4:03 am, Gadgetjunkie Said:
negrielectronics.com has the Kaiser on its site at $666.50 and said will be in stock 12 August.
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On Jun 10, 2007 @ 4:21 pm, Robert Said:
Hey BGR,
Can we get an update or did they take the kaiser when they repo’d the elf?
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On Jun 12, 2007 @ 6:55 am, dimaka Said:
Will it be able to sending and receiving faxes when it connected with a notebook (Bluetooth or cable connection)?
Who can answer?
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On Jun 14, 2007 @ 7:44 pm, DoG Said:
still waiting for the best phone in the world.
KAISER
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On Jun 15, 2007 @ 3:25 pm, Dave Said:
BGR, come in…..is this SDHC compliant? Need to have 4GB SDHC micro card for GPS mapping information….
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On Jun 15, 2007 @ 5:12 pm, Damng Said:
http://tinyurl.com/2lq8st
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On Jun 15, 2007 @ 5:17 pm, Damng Said:
Well damn, Negri Electronics site shows a new date of September 20th: http://tinyurl.com/2lq8st
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On Jun 16, 2007 @ 1:45 pm, Parm Said:
I can’t wait to get my hands on one of these, I’ve been due an upgrade for a while but I’ve been holding out just for the Kaiser.
The wait is becoming unbareable! >_
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On Jun 17, 2007 @ 9:58 pm, Nate Said:
I think I’ll get an iPhone and try it for 29 days…
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On Jun 18, 2007 @ 2:52 pm, ryan Said:
i wonder if they would make me a left-handed one.
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On Jun 18, 2007 @ 3:05 pm, MACMAC Said:
Qualcomm 7200 400Mhz
RAM 128MB / ROM 256MB
Camera has no flash.
Battery is 1350 mAh
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On Jun 19, 2007 @ 12:00 pm, Jake Said:
I’m interested to know more about the Qualcomm dual core capabilities. There’s mention of 3D processing, but I don’t plan on playing 3D games. So what’s the advantages of 3D acceleration? If the 3D acceleration can help out with GPS mapping (i.e. Memory-Map), then that would be really good. But not sure if I want to give up the extra MHz for the 3D acceleration.
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On Jun 20, 2007 @ 3:37 am, Mr.Q Said:
Any idea anyone? on when wud this be available unlocked in pda/gsm retail shops in Europe?
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On Jun 22, 2007 @ 11:34 pm, alucard Said:
would you choose the sharp w-zero3 over the htc p4550
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On Jun 23, 2007 @ 1:08 am, jake Said:
I think the Toshiba G900 is better. Too bad the G900 didn’t have an integrated GPS.
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On Jun 23, 2007 @ 8:48 am, funcionando Said:
Defenetely you should give up megahertz for 3d acceleration if you plan to use off-road maps with gps.
You also will be able to see movies without any problems and very smooth (but in qvga is like using an f1 in a traffic jam).
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On Jun 23, 2007 @ 10:45 am, johnny Said:
I’ve seen some post here about why VGA? Yes VGA would SEEM to be a waste on a small screen so I agree the the front of the phone needs to hve more screen area to accommidate it.
Ok let me spell it out to you.
cad programs
1) Most webpages are setup for 640×480
2) Tech support guys - we have all used our phones (logmein) to control our clients or our computers remotely - qvga requires alot more scrolling
3) if you want to watch movies etc… you have to really compress the size down. With VGA it gets acceptable
4) Reading - you can use a small font and still see it clearly - less eye strain
5) cleaner looking icons
6) Pictures - be able to look at pictures on your phone without having to zoom tons to see details
7) reading documents
9) gps (try seeing street names and enough detail on a qvga)
Yea so if you are happy just having a phone with soem pda stuff then get a Q or something. We all want a laptop replacement for 75% of what we would lug a laptop around. Then we are willing to pay the $600+ bucks that we could be spending toward a laptop.
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On Jun 26, 2007 @ 1:58 pm, George Said:
Then think about the upcoming HTC Polaris (Google it). It has the same spec like HTC Kaiser (minus keyboard), but it has 3.5″ VGA screen!!!!
Seriously, I prefer HTC Polaris in this case
Without keyboard is ok, you can use stylus or your finger (3.5″ is big enough) + Happy Tapping Keyboard (Google it) !
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On Jul 2, 2007 @ 5:27 pm, Sl Said:
Quarter VGA 320×240 is not acceptable for comfortable browsing, having only 77K pixels.
77! Even crappy cameras have now 200K, and note, they do not need to reproduce tiny texts!!!!!
iPhone also a bit sucks (it’s only a half-VGA), but as a partial compensation for inconvenience it zooms eazily and does not need any stylus.
Ideal pixel count is widescreen VGA like one N800 has - all 100% happy with it
The screen size has to be 3.2 - 4″, we do not need tons of plastic around it.
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On Jul 2, 2007 @ 5:29 pm, Sl Said:
HTC folks are continuing cooking the crap without any imagination and inspiration.
Latest T-mobile offering Wing, for example, is almost the same recipe in the new wrap. Knowing Apple puts 677MHZ processor in iPhone, they still kept slooooow 200 MHz first gen OMAP1 processor in the Wing with no FP and 3D.
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On Jul 4, 2007 @ 2:09 pm, August Said:
Please kindly leave.
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On Jul 5, 2007 @ 7:03 pm, Dennis Ammerlaan Said:
Hey, i have a TyTN too, the last few days i spent searching for an external antenna for it. What brand must i look for, because i cannot determine which connector type is fitted in the back. Maybe you have some info to help me with. I live in the Netherlands.
thanks in advance!
Dennis
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On Jul 6, 2007 @ 2:02 am, prealphageek Said:
I can’t wait to get my hands on this ultimate phone! On a slightly sadder note; Seeing that this device has not yet been blessed by the FFC as of yet. I can’t imagine it will arrive state side (AT&T) by the July/August 2007 time frame.
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On Jul 7, 2007 @ 12:21 pm, whoster69 Said:
Guys, it’s already been reported that AT&T is getting this in August or September.
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On Jul 9, 2007 @ 10:53 pm, IS Said:
Damn I don’t know if I want the Kaiser or Polaris… decisions decisions.
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On Jul 11, 2007 @ 12:58 am, JayJay Said:
I like the Polaris but it has 2100MHz WCDMA is a let down. Ill go for the Kaiser.
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On Jul 11, 2007 @ 11:20 am, Roman Said:
It is so beautiful
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On Jul 11, 2007 @ 7:52 pm, Dank Reboot Said:
I’ve heard T-Mobile, I’ve heard AT&T… Does anyone have cold hard facts on which service will carry the Kaiser?
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On Jul 12, 2007 @ 12:13 am, Raptor Said:
{I’ve heard T-Mobile, I’ve heard AT&T… Does anyone have cold hard facts on which service will carry the Kaiser?}
Good News is AT&T is currently testing the Kaiser for a late 3rd - 4th quarter release.
Bad news is that they are testing with the front camera removed as well as the GPS chip removed.
To me that was one of the main reasons from upgrading from the 8525. GOD forbid they actually give the customer what they want in a device.
Raptor
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On Jul 12, 2007 @ 4:55 am, JB Said:
Oh it’s a good device but I don’t want to buy something form asia and I don’t want to invest their economic!!!
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On Jul 14, 2007 @ 12:08 pm, Oscar Said:
Just got off the phone with HTC. The Kaiser will launch on AT&T (Cingular) in mid September. It will support up to 8GB expansion card.
If only they would have made this handset with a 3.5 screen and a separate 3.5mm stereo headset jack so I can listen to music while tethering to my laptop on the acela on those NY-DC trips.
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On Jul 14, 2007 @ 11:05 pm, Dank Reboot Said:
So Oscar, with your contact at HTC. Can you verify Raptor’s comment about AT&T testing without the camera and GPS chip. The GPS chip is the reason why I want this fliping phone!!!
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On Jul 15, 2007 @ 8:51 am, CS Said:
What’s that suppose to mean? If thats the case, then you shouldn’t be thinking about buying any HTC product!
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On Jul 16, 2007 @ 12:44 pm, Dank Reboot Said:
I shouldn’t be thinking about buying any HTC product? I said “The GPS chip is the reason why I want this fliping phone!!!” which means I want GPS on my phone… Why shouldn’t I be thinking about buying any HTC product?
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On Jul 16, 2007 @ 6:10 pm, prealphageek Said:
I’ve read about AT&T omitting the front camera but not the GPS. GPS should be available on this device when it comes to AT&T. Also, it appears that AT&T is naming the device “8925″, if you haven’t heard yet.
Is there any concrete confirmation on the September release date?
I’m still reading that it will be July/August.
Someone please confirm!!!
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On Jul 16, 2007 @ 6:20 pm, Chris Said:
Why is everyone so concerned about who the carrier is? Why not just get it from HTC directly? That way, the GPS chip will be there for sure and there won’t be any ugly carrier graffity on the phone (I had an iPaq that was inscribed with ‘T-Mobile’ and I hated that). I would really like someone to answer this question, as I’m baffled that people would want to buy a phone from a carrier in the first place.
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On Jul 17, 2007 @ 10:37 am, Harish Said:
It’s the beast !
When it will be available in INDIA? This device is worth wait.
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On Jul 17, 2007 @ 7:41 pm, Dank Reboot Said:
Baffled? Buying from a carrier = cheaper and insurance coverage!! Why wouldn’t we want to buy from a carrier?
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On Jul 17, 2007 @ 9:54 pm, prealphageek Said:
Guys, see if this makes any sense to you…
http://www.htcwiki.com/page/Smartphones+in+the+News/thread/654553/Release+date+of+HTC+Kaiser/post/4914044/Release+date+of+HTC+Kaiser?1184723505767
Also find some HTC contacts here.
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On Jul 18, 2007 @ 1:29 pm, Chris Said:
SL - you’ve got to be kidding if you think people are going to lug around a 4″ wide cellphone. Part of the reason for having a converged device is because I don’t want to carry around a laptop with me. The size the Kaiser is *now* is the absolute max I would want to carry - I sure don’t want anything bigger.
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On Jul 20, 2007 @ 1:45 pm, ryan Said:
{Why is everyone so concerned about who the carrier is? Why not just get it from HTC directly?}
This is because , (assuming[more like hoping] t-mobile will come out w/ 3g if/when this phone comes out} 3g bands are different for each carrier. So, you get it unlocked but may be stuck w/ edge.
anyways, IMO its coming out for at&t. damn. I don’t know if i am ready to pay an extra 50$+
for internet/tethering.
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On Jul 23, 2007 @ 4:51 pm, thefrisbeeguru Said:
What flavor of GPS chip set is used? SiRF III is highly preferred!
Does anybody know?
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On Jul 24, 2007 @ 11:34 am, spif Said:
I am afraid the GPS chip will be a Qualcomm (again), if I believe what I have read lately …
Too bad, such a fantastic phone with such a crippy GPS hardware …
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On Jul 26, 2007 @ 11:35 am, basic Said:
Wow I wonder when it will hit the shops in Turkey! or ever!!!!!!!!
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On Jul 27, 2007 @ 8:18 am, Arco Said:
Nice features EXCEPT for the QVGA. It’s a shame that there are still new devices with such bad screen!!
Currently I have a Qtek 9000. This has VGA and I love it! I am used to a very small font, something which is not possible with QVGA.
So, while the memory is much better than I have (I hate the lack of program memory!! I have it all the time) I will not buy this device due to a lousy QVGA screen.
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On Jul 27, 2007 @ 9:22 am, Charlzee Said:
Does the new Kaiser have the ptt feature just like the 8525?
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On Jul 27, 2007 @ 3:20 pm, Christopher Said:
Arco, VGA screen on a device like this is impractical for two reasons:
1) it would KILL the battery life, and the device has enough hardware features already (GPS, wifi, bluetooth, 3G with HSUPA etc), and
2) a device like the Universal or the Advantage suits a VGA screen, but not a handheld phone device. It makes it too big to be a comfortably-handheld device (imho).
I’m fine with a QVGA screen, asking for a VGA screen which would have to stay really small is a bit pointless in the grander scheme of things
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On Jul 30, 2007 @ 1:17 am, bigsam Said:
HTC sources that the device will start shipping to EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST/ASIA by first week of august…..
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On Aug 6, 2007 @ 5:46 pm, Dank Reboot Said:
So??? Any word on the US Release??? On any release for that matter?
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On Aug 7, 2007 @ 5:45 pm, Felix Said:
Qualcomm — a company that’s arguably more used to suing than being sued — isn’t finding much luck in its protracted quest to avoid a Broadcom-led ban of its 3G hardware from coming into the States. Following a recent denial of its motion to stay the ban in the court system, the President of The United States himself (or his administration, anyway) has swooped in to render an executive judgment, and it ain’t looking any better for Qualcomm. Saying that the importance of protecting IP rights outweighs the inconvenience of the ban, the Bush folks have stood by the ITC’s decision to impose the ban in the first place, making it seem all that much smarter now for Verizon to have sidestepped the whole ordeal and paid Broadcom itself. Barring any last minute antics, the ban gets enforced starting tomorrow.
What do you guys think about this information and how would it affect the release of HTC Kaiser in the States?
This came from engadget.com
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On Aug 9, 2007 @ 2:30 pm, Ryan Rodriguez Said:
Maybe I’m mistaken, but I’ve already heard about papaerwork being submitted to the fcc and being approved for all three models of the Kaiser In late july.
Don’t quote me on this either, but I also read that the 8525 shipped a few weeks after its fcc approval.
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On Aug 9, 2007 @ 8:34 pm, Bob Said:
http://crunchgear.com/2007/08/09/breaking-att-tilt-price-and-launch-date-leaked/
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On Aug 14, 2007 @ 1:47 pm, R Said:
Any ideas where the best place to purchase an unlocked kaiser? Im from Canada (up north) so i will not have the option of getting the phone through AT&T
Any advice would be appreciated.
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On Aug 17, 2007 @ 12:07 pm, Attila the hun Said:
I have account ATT but I am not going to buy the 8925 but HTC unlocked, at list ATT will not checnge the goodies there.
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On Aug 17, 2007 @ 12:54 pm, Felix Said:
I am going to do the same buy it unlocked it will cost more but worth it…
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On Aug 29, 2007 @ 9:18 am, Phil Curtis Said:
I am in Hong Kong and eagerly awaiting the release of this phone. I will post when I know something.
PC
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On Sep 10, 2007 @ 12:07 pm, ren Said:
Technically, I think the phrase is “for all in tents and porpoises”.
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On Sep 10, 2007 @ 1:24 pm, Chris Wilmer Said:
Just wanted to let all of you know that I have a Kaiser now. I live in Chicago. GPS is awesome. Both GPS and a front-side camera I never thought I would like so much. They both really come in handy!
Let me know if you have any questions.
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On Sep 10, 2007 @ 1:25 pm, Chris Wilmer Said:
Oh, just thought I would point out that I bought it through google checkout via ‘elite electronix’.
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On Sep 10, 2007 @ 1:28 pm, Chris Wilmer Said:
Sorry for not including all my posts in one comment, but this is how my mind works apparently.
Can anybody comment on why HTC put the speaker phone on the back? What is the design/vision here? Imagine putting the phone on the table of your meeting room (or whatever) and having a conference call. Since the microphone is on the opposite side of the speaker phone… either your voice will be muffled, or the speaker’s voice will be muffled. It’s kind of hard to stand up the phone vertically… so, yeah, let me know what you think.
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On Sep 10, 2007 @ 3:25 pm, christian Said:
Chris Wilmer, how much did it set you back and are you using AT&T as your carrier? I live in Chicago, too and am anxious to get this phone. I could wait a few weeks for release, but I heard they removed the cameras from the AT&T 8925 model, so I might be willing to shell out for the real thing.
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On Sep 10, 2007 @ 4:02 pm, Chris Wilmer Said:
I have to admit a moral bias before I mask it with rational justifications: I hate the idea of buying a phone from a carrier, especially when the carrier refers to the phone as its own (i.e. Imagine the advertisement from At&T “We’ve been hard at work and now we bring you, our favorite consumer, a brand new mobile phone: the AT&T Tilt!! Yeah!”).
Anyway, it cost me $800. However, before you jump to call me a lunatic, consider the following:
Buying from AT&T locks you into a 2-year contract if I am not mistaken. Now multiply $40/month * 24 months. That’s $960. Now consider instead, buying a SkypeIn number (like me), and SkypePro, and unlimited calling (incoming and outgoing) within North America. Voicemail and call display included. Total bill? $7 a month. Since both my home and my university campus have free wireless, this covers me for almost all cases. I’m still considering an unlimited data plan from a carrier (the Chicago area has 3G nearly everywhere), which would mean that I could receive and make calls virtually everywhere through Skype via the Kaiser. I’m waiting on that latter idea though to see if I really need it.
All that being said, setting up SkypeMobile is a bit of headache. It’ll be really easy someday soon, just not today. The whole thing reminds me of Linux vs. Windows. Of course going open-source is much much cheaper, but it also incurs a fair amount of headache-ness and pioneering spirit.
*phew* Long post, better get back to work!
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On Sep 10, 2007 @ 4:34 pm, Chris Wilmer Said:
George said something about ‘no ‘ESC’ button on the keyboard’.
In the Windows Mobile operating system “OK”=”ESC” for all intents and purposes (or should I say, for all “intensive purposes”?). Notice that there is and ‘OK’ button on the keyboard.
-Chris
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On Sep 10, 2007 @ 6:14 pm, christian Said:
Mr. Wilmer,
does the GPS work out of the box? I heard that AT&T was going to hobble their version so you have to pay for the GPS as an additional service like for the 8525.
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On Sep 10, 2007 @ 7:35 pm, Chris Wilmer Said:
Yup GPS works out of the box and it is free. In fact, there were a few pleasant surprises (and some very minor unpleasant ones). Here’s a summary:
1. Free GPS. If you buy the non-AT&T version it comes bundled with the free version of TomTom navigator software (which turns out to be excellent). You get one free city map, so I got Chicago. [Pleasant surprise]
2. It takes five minutes the first time you use it to get a signal, and it only really works well outdoors. [Unpleasant surprise]
3. After you get your first signal, subsequent connections take one or two seconds.
4. Contrary to my expectations, the refresh rate is less than one second. I was really surprised when I was walking around town with the device. If I took two or three steps forward, the cursor on the map moved with me. I always thought that this sort of thing would refresh every 10 seconds, or maybe even every minute, but it felt ‘real-time’ so-to-speak. [Pleasant surprise].
5. Tomtom has all sorts of interesting features. You pick a location X on a map, and it tells you how to get there DEPENDING ON THE MODE OF TRAVEL YOU CHOOSE. You can pick from walking, driving, biking, etc. The route and estimated time and distance adjust appropriately. All for free! Also, all of the navigation instructions are spoken to you by a British girl voice. Other voices/languages cost extra. British girl is fine by me though. [Pleasant surprise].
6. Tomtom’s wonderfulness notwithstanding, I’m not sure yet how to access GPS through any other means. I’ve been told that Google maps couples with GPS, but I haven’t figured out how to do this yet. There is no Windows Mobile system application that simply readys off your coordinates as given by the GPS satellites.
I’ve only had this device for a few days, so keep reminding me to post more information as I learn to use the device more effectively. the one-free-map thing might sound less like a feature and more like an absence of one once I start travelling elsewhere.
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On Sep 11, 2007 @ 5:22 pm, christian Said:
post more info please!
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On Sep 12, 2007 @ 4:10 am, gb Said:
Tell me how it goes with elite, i was thinking about them.
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On Sep 12, 2007 @ 4:18 am, gb Said:
has anyone try comparing the kaiser with the nokia e90?
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On Sep 12, 2007 @ 5:38 pm, christian Said:
You can compare it for yourself. Here is a link to a side by side comparison of all 3 versions of teh kaiser (the 100, the 110, and the 120) and the sweet as hell LG KS20 which comes out in november:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer
Unfortunately, this site has no Nokia phones on it. here is a link to the Nokia site with the E90 specs:
http://usa.nokia.com/A4351714
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On Sep 12, 2007 @ 5:42 pm, christian Said:
I like the Kaiser 120 the best (the model with both cameras), but I don’t think AT&T will have that model. Just the 110 with the 3MP camera and the 110 without camera. The Kaiser is less bulky than the E90, with very similar specs. Also, I do not know if there will be any discount on the E90 like there will be with teh AT&T versions of the kaiser. That LG KS20 is even sweeter, IMO, because of its size and the lack of QWERTY keyboard which is fine with me. It has a touch screen and a flash for the camera, but the camera is only a 1.9 MP. If the LG was out at the same time or earlier than the Kaiser in the US, I would get it in a heart beat.
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On Sep 14, 2007 @ 4:32 pm, opera11 Said:
This is the best PDA
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On Sep 22, 2007 @ 2:32 pm, Dank Reboot Said:
So does anyone have any solid info about when AT&T will be releasing this freakin phone! I WANT IT!! with the AT&T discount of course!!!
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On Sep 24, 2007 @ 7:49 pm, Rick Said:
Doesn’t the overseas unlocked HTC Kaiser P4550 phone (That exists now) have all the same software functions (or more) as the AT&T 8925 (Shift) coming out next month? What’s wrong with an unlocked phone?
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On Sep 24, 2007 @ 7:59 pm, Rick Said:
correction: that’s 8925 “Tilt”.
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On Sep 24, 2007 @ 8:15 pm, Joe Said:
where is everyone buying there htc tytn ii from??
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On Sep 24, 2007 @ 8:36 pm, Christopher Said:
I’m gonna have to get mine from my network provider (T-Mobile UK) because unfortunately I just can’t afford the HTC OEM version - and it’s a crying shame, because the HTC version looks beautiful and slinky in black, and the T-Mobile one looks like the Vario 1 - grey and bulky and horrible! But oh well, I know it’s the same phone underneath.
I might have to make my own case for it.
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On Nov 9, 2007 @ 10:36 pm, shirley Said:
does the kaiser have instant messaging such as aim, msn, and/or yahoo? n how is the web browser ??
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On Nov 23, 2007 @ 5:47 pm, Gina Said:
I am on my third Tilt in two weeks and still can not get any where in connecting to my Corproate email. Support for the Tilt is just not where it should be for a device of this caliber.
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On Dec 4, 2007 @ 7:50 am, Rokas Said:
Hey, maybe someone needs bidden HTC kaiser for 360$ i won’t buy it because i live in Lithuania and shipping costs a lot.
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On Dec 19, 2007 @ 2:39 pm, KKat Said:
I was on this website looking for comments on the Tilt. On my second phone in 3.5 weeks. 1st battery drained and crashed. Second crashes & there is no indication phone is down and no record of missed calls. Backlight won’t go off automatically when charging. Email notification no longer takes you to view the email, & other random things. I’m wondering how many other things will stop working after having the phone months vs weeks. Can anyone speak to this?
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On Dec 22, 2007 @ 12:31 am, James Said:
I have the AT&T version and am using the Holux GPSlim240 with Google maps. To setup the Googlemaps to work with an external GPS just click on Start/Settings/System/External GPS and setup the parameters for your GPS. Then open Google maps and click Menu and Use GPS. That’s it.
I’m sitting in my dining room tracking 5 to 7 satellites.
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On Jan 18, 2008 @ 11:55 pm, Ryan Spencer Said:
To: HTC Corporation
To whom it may concern,
The lack of ATI Imageon hardware driver support and the 7200 chipset driver support on the TYTN II is obvious. The TYTN II, which claims to be superior to most all current devices on the market, is lacking serious driver and hardware support when it comes to Video playback. In fact, anything that has to do with Direct Draw, Direct X and any fluid movement of pixels on the screen seems behave in an unacceptably slow manner.
Even the camera application that comes with the device slows down to such a slow frame rate that photos are not able to be captured, and cause videos to record and render slower than a sideshow. Videos captured from a third party source render faster on devices over 3 years older using slower technology.
There are many TYTN II owners experiencing the same exact results that have been briefly explained above. The lack of speed in rendering video or 3D content on the TYTN II seems to be a direct result of poorly coded and even missing driver support. If HTC is unable or unwilling to resolve this issue, please prove a full fledge SDK release so that phone owners can repair what HTC was unwilling or unable to do.
Thank You,
All TytnII/ATT Tilt/T Mobile MDA Vario III owners.
Sincerely,
Ryan Spencer
More info: http://www.htcclassaction.org
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On Jun 11, 2008 @ 5:58 pm, Gadgets Said:
Why has this phone not arrived in the UK yet, we are so deprived!
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